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wyeayeman31 Mar 2015 5:26 a.m. PST
VonTed31 Mar 2015 5:39 a.m. PST

He actually bothers to post some text as well…..

IGWARG1 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian31 Mar 2015 5:55 a.m. PST

Before Mako11 get's in.. Putin's plan to destroy and take over EU and American miniatures industry…

wyeayeman31 Mar 2015 6:02 a.m. PST

I am from the Uk. More Tory cutbacks. Cant afford text.

Lee Brilleaux Fezian31 Mar 2015 6:32 a.m. PST

Can you not cut and paste the phrase, "Thanks boys, glad you like it?" Or use some sort of stamp?

VonTed31 Mar 2015 6:41 a.m. PST

Lemme help


The Detail on This Tiny 3-Inch-Long 3D Printed Ship Will Amaze You

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Mar 2015 6:50 a.m. PST

11 hours to print, on a machine that probably cost over £100.00 GBPk !!

Somehow I think they are never going to compete, even with GHQ.

lloydthegamer Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2015 6:58 a.m. PST

Anyone recognize the ship?

Personal logo BrigadeGames Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Mar 2015 7:09 a.m. PST

11 hours print. I would hate to be the finance department enforcing pricing requirements with sales to recover overhead for the time on that machine.

79thPA Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2015 7:43 a.m. PST

The disappearing ship from the Philadelphia Project?

Dynaman878931 Mar 2015 7:55 a.m. PST

11 hours. Next year it will be 5, year after the 2.5, year after then 1.25, year after that .75, then .5, then .25, then .125

So in less than a decade it will be printing in 7.5 minutes. Somehow I think GHQ is going to need to worry.

wyeayeman31 Mar 2015 8:00 a.m. PST

where are the smiley's?

Personal logo Yellow Admiral Supporting Member of TMP31 Mar 2015 8:30 a.m. PST

GHQ already has to worry. The 3D printed WWI ships from WTJ look amazing, have as much detail as the human eye can perceive, cost less than GHQ's pewter miniatures, and can be printed in any scale (though WTJ currently offers only 4 scales).

Of course, GHQ's best defense is to jump on the bandwagon. There's no reason they can't switch to 3D printed plastic too.

jeffreyw331 Mar 2015 9:04 a.m. PST

What's wrong with that ruler? Those don't look like inches…

Fergal31 Mar 2015 9:05 a.m. PST

Some folks lack vision and can't see past what is available now to what is possible.

"I think there is a world market for maybe five computers."

Thomas Watson, president of IBM, 1943

Others are pushing the boundaries and experimenting with what is available so they are ready when great things are possible.

Mako1131 Mar 2015 9:14 a.m. PST

Beautiful stuff, but I'll stick to GHQ's metal.

The industry does have a 3-D metal printer now too.

Of course those are inches, which is the one, true unit of measure. That person just has really big hands, and they've chosen to measure in tenths of an inch, for scale accuracy………

;-)

Texas Jack31 Mar 2015 10:34 a.m. PST

Cheap jokes about one of our TMP members aside, if you like metal you can still get WTJ´s pewter ships. They are 1/3000 though, but really beautiful.

The Beast Rampant31 Mar 2015 10:52 a.m. PST

Beautiful stuff, but I'll stick to GHQ's metal.

A durable,light, one-piece model with detail as well as the naked eye can appreciate, and certainly as well as anyone could ever do justice to with a brush, OR-

A multi-part metal mini with often many fiddly parts to glue on, whose weight is a detriment to its considerable fragility.

I will choose metal over plastic nine times out of ten, because I like the heft, the durability, and to me, "metal says miniatures". But THIS type of mini? It's a no-brainer.

WTJ made that abundantly clear. In time, GHQ can either sink or swim.

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP31 Mar 2015 11:21 a.m. PST

Dynaman, they have been saying that for 5 years now and the cost of a machine to print at anything like a wargaming standard is still much the same as it was then. Production costs for the standard have reduced and quality and fineness have improved but at nowhere near the rate at which you predict.

I haven't seen the WTJ ships or handled them. People do seem quite taken by them though.

Personally I'm quite happy with my 1/3000th Navwar versions. They have all the detail I want and the weight I prefer.

Kelly Armstrong31 Mar 2015 11:52 a.m. PST

Speaking of sink or swim . . . do these plastic models float on water? With a little stability (light lead sinker) I could wargame in the hot tub. Who would you invite to a hot tub wargaming event?

53Punisher31 Mar 2015 12:38 p.m. PST

Why this guy, of course…

link

53Punisher31 Mar 2015 1:07 p.m. PST

There's an ongoing article about 3D printing for wargaming on beastsofwar.com

link

Navy Fower Wun Seven31 Mar 2015 11:10 p.m. PST

Yes I'm very taken with WTJ! Please excuse my hasty paint jobs:

HMS Lion

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SMS Seydlitz

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StarfuryXL501 Apr 2015 11:29 p.m. PST

Amicalement.

jeffreyw303 Apr 2015 6:22 p.m. PST

Again, with these funny rulers…

hindsTMP Supporting Member of TMP18 Apr 2015 9:10 a.m. PST

GHQ already has to worry. The 3D printed WWI ships from WTJ look amazing, have as much detail as the human eye can perceive, cost less than GHQ's pewter miniatures, and can be printed in any scale (though WTJ currently offers only 4 scales).

The smaller the scale, the more you notice issues with (Shapeways FUD) 3D printer granularity. They are also less durable, are very difficult to straighten if warped, are generally less easy to modify, don't have trainable turrets, have worse surface finsh, and come with a surface impregnated with wax (which contrary to claims on these boards is *not* completely removed with detergent).

I too like WTJ models in general (metal), but by my standards affordable plastic 3D printing technology is not yet ready for prime time.

Mark H.

Das Sheep08 May 2015 3:39 a.m. PST

I have fleets from the Tiny Thingsmajigs store on shapeways in 1/4800 that are amazingly detailed. I spent about $200 USD on probably 50 or so ships. I have the entire French and Italian fleets for some fun "what if" fights.

Another advantage of 3D printing is you can make a master copy of a model, then use it to produce a mold for resin or cast models. This is even more true for waterline ships since they are fairly easy molds to make for resin.

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