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Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP29 Mar 2015 5:54 a.m. PST

I'm having serious trouble finding a good one, wiki one, but no brigade structure or battalion counts.

Its for blucher, so i need the brigade info, general de brigade names, ca. Strengths,

For the Russians i also need info if the brigades had battalion guns.

jeffreyw329 Mar 2015 6:10 a.m. PST

Here's Gingerich: link
Searching Napoleon Series w/Google should give you more leads. No doubt, Sasha will be around in a bit with full info. :)

Camcleod29 Mar 2015 7:04 a.m. PST

Found this Blog with numbers:

link

A translated version:
link

xxxxxxx29 Mar 2015 11:28 a.m. PST

Mr. Gingerich has put together the best Russian OOB I have seen (in any language). To do more would require archival research.

While Mr. Gingerich identifies the regimental artillery and the "reserve" or "grand battery" artillery by parent company, the regimental guns were typically :
jäger battalion : none
grenadier battalion : 2x 1/4 pud (12-lber calibre) unicorn
musketeer battalion : 2x 6-lber gun
You will see that an infantry brigade of 2 regiments (6 battalions) would thus have a light artillery company. Some brigade commanders by 1807 were starting to use these 12 guns as a unit (which they were administratively).

Sidenote : This era rather marks the high-point in importance of Russian Brigade commanders, their greatest span of control …. By 1811, brigade commands were only 4 battalions (given to the senior officer present among them, often a colonel), and there was a permanent divisional commander who could treat the 12-14 battalions under him as his "own", and the artillery was in a divisional artillery brigade under the command of the division commander and an artillery general or senior colonel. By this point the tactical command of regiments (2 battalions) and brigades (4 battalions) was really quite stereotyped or superceded, in comparison to 1807.

I looked at the strengths on the French website. That should be OK for a starting point. I really don't know anything better.

But, in the rules, does +/- some strength points really make much difference?
In real life, a unit 25% or maybe even 30% below established strength in manpower would really fight much the same. It would have lower strategic endurance and maybe some less capability in pétit guerre, but not really that much difference in a set-piece battle. So, as long as you have the right number of battalions, squadrons and pieces of artillery (and no already-heavily-damaged units), you really have the "fighting power" about right.

- Sasha

wrgmr129 Mar 2015 11:46 a.m. PST

Gunfreak, PM sent…

Gunfreak Supporting Member of TMP30 Mar 2015 12:45 p.m. PST

Thanks for all the help, I think I can work with all this info.

WKeyser12 Apr 2015 11:54 a.m. PST

James Arnold books have a great ons. Crisis in the Snow
William

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