Tango01 | 25 Mar 2015 12:45 p.m. PST |
… on a Motorcycle? Funny study here. "As part of my continuing obsession over the new Avengers: Age of Ultron trailer, I am going to take a look at the Black Widow. I have no idea what's actually going on. All I can see is that the Black Widow is riding a motorcycle and scoops up Captain America's shield. What is there to analyze? There are two questions. How fast was she going? How hard is it to pick up a shield like that? Motorcycle Speed It would be simple to just make a plain guess as to the motorcycle's speed. I mean, she looks like she is driving in a city and in traffic. The would seem to limit her speed to under 60 mph (just as a guess). But you know that baseless guessing isn't my style. No, I prefer to guess on some wild piece of evidence like the clip from the trailer. Why not just use my normal kung-fu like video analysis skills? Well, that is my plan. However, this isn't such a simple clip. The camera angle is very low and the bike is moving mostly towards the camera. This means there is some crazy perspective problems. But isn't this exactly what I did with the speeder in the Star Wars VII trailer? Yes. Well, no. I think if I just measure the angular size of the wheel, I can use that to get the position. This is a little simpler than the Star Wars speeder analysis…" Full article here link Amicalement Armand |
tberry7403 | 25 Mar 2015 1:36 p.m. PST |
In a movie about superheroes and demigods THAT'S what he has a problem with? |
Pictors Studio | 25 Mar 2015 2:00 p.m. PST |
Because that is something that would be unrealistic as opposed to something that is about suspension of disbelief. |
Dynaman8789 | 25 Mar 2015 2:10 p.m. PST |
> Because that is something that would be unrealistic as opposed to something that is about suspension of disbelief. Pardon? |
sarangkhan | 25 Mar 2015 2:14 p.m. PST |
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tberry7403 | 25 Mar 2015 2:24 p.m. PST |
Because that is something that would be unrealistic as opposed to something that is about suspension of disbelief. "I don't think that means what you think it means." |
20thmaine | 25 Mar 2015 4:09 p.m. PST |
"It's a one in a million chance but it might just come off" |
Pictors Studio | 25 Mar 2015 7:23 p.m. PST |
Suspension of disbelief is when you allow certain things in a work of fiction. You suspend your disbelief that there is a Norse God of Thunder or that the Super Soldier Serum could work. That is different from having something be unrealistic given the premise that this thing happens. If you have an Iron Man armored suit then what can realistically be expected to happen around that, given that supposition. I suspend disbelief to think that Thor can bench press 100 tons because he is magic or whatever. But Thor towing the island of Manhattan up the river is unrealistic because the laws of physics around an island don't change just because you have a being that is magically strong. If you have a being whose super power is the manipulation of the earth somehow then he might be able to do it and that same situation might not be unrealistic but require suspension of disbelief. |
tberry7403 | 25 Mar 2015 8:25 p.m. PST |
In other words: It's a matter of how much BS are you willing to put up with before calling it a SYFY movie. |
Pictors Studio | 25 Mar 2015 9:11 p.m. PST |
Not really. SYFY movies also have terrible acting and bad plots and really ty dialog. |
wminsing | 26 Mar 2015 6:22 a.m. PST |
Comic books, and movies based on them, already take place in a universe with more 'elastic' laws of physics than our own. Where does all that extra mass come from when Bruce Banner 'hulks out', for example? That violates several fundamental laws of physics right out of the gate. That's not saying I don't enjoy efforts to keep the universe 'grounded', but again, this seems like an odd issue to worry about. -Will |
CeruLucifus | 26 Mar 2015 12:10 p.m. PST |
Of course there is more than one Black Widow origin, and the Cinematic Universe origin has not been shown yet. But, the Cinematics Universe seems to follow the Ultimates Universe frequently. In the Ultimates Universe Black Widow was a product of a Russian super-soldier program. Now no super-soldier program matched the original since the key ingredient was Steve Roger's genetics, and Black Widow also said there were several Russian super-soldier programs so the outcomes were various. But anyway Black Widow may have physical abilities above and beyond her training as a Super Spy, maybe even approaching Captain America's own. And we would never doubt Captain America could have done that, right? |
Tango01 | 26 Mar 2015 11:27 p.m. PST |
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Dynaman8789 | 27 Mar 2015 6:03 a.m. PST |
My whole point is that Suspension of Disbelief and comic book superheroes, well the two just don't go together. |
Pictors Studio | 27 Mar 2015 7:52 a.m. PST |
They go together as well as suspension of disbelief and anything else. We believe that Batman could spend years practicing to become the best detective/fighter/acrobat/climber/small weapons inventor in the world but we don't believe that he could survive a bullet through the brain. The idea that realism is violated fits in with the suspension of disbelief. In the above mentioned example the hulk violates all kinds of laws of physics to just exist with added mass and so forth. But he doesn't defy gravity. He has a set of rules that he follows, when he violates those, it is a break in realism. When he follows them it is suspension of disbelief. |
Dynaman8789 | 27 Mar 2015 8:57 a.m. PST |
Going to have to disagree, comic books gave up on internal consistency decades ago. Whatever works for the current story is what happens. |
Mithmee | 27 Mar 2015 11:59 a.m. PST |
Cap's Shield no Thor's Hammer yes |
Parzival | 28 Mar 2015 5:19 p.m. PST |
Hulk could be pulling his mass from an extra-dimensional space. |