Help support TMP


"Polybian Roman allies?" Topic


10 Posts

All members in good standing are free to post here. Opinions expressed here are solely those of the posters, and have not been cleared with nor are they endorsed by The Miniatures Page.

Please remember not to make new product announcements on the forum. Our advertisers pay for the privilege of making such announcements.

For more information, see the TMP FAQ.


Back to the Ancients Discussion Message Board


Areas of Interest

Ancients

Featured Hobby News Article


Featured Link


Top-Rated Ruleset

Armati


Rating: gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star gold star 


Featured Showcase Article

Eureka Amazon Project: The Phalangitrixes

Beowulf Fezian paints the prototypes for the Eureka Amazon Army.


Featured Workbench Article

Deep Dream: Getting Personal

Generating portraits using Deep Dream Generator.


Current Poll


985 hits since 22 Mar 2015
©1994-2024 Bill Armintrout
Comments or corrections?

aapch4522 Mar 2015 6:19 p.m. PST

For some odd reason I find myself wanting to get some polybian Romans… this is odd because I HATE Rome… But recently, I've felt less contempt for their republican selves, they aren't evil, yet. There are still some good years, and some good fights left in them until the marian reforms.

So I'm looking at this army, and thinking to myself, they HAD to have some kind of allies in all these fights. All the super powers at this time did… Except they all used Galatians.. I think geography might get in the way of that type of friendship.

Who would join the field with the romans at this point in time? Would it be Gauls, Iberians, Celtiberians, Samnites, Ligurians? Who?
Also, in what context?
For example, I don't want my romans to be fighting the macedonians with Iberian allies, when they only used Iberian allies in some obscure battle in Gaul etc.

If you can enlighten me on this topic, I will be eternally grateful.

Thanks
Austin

monger22 Mar 2015 6:33 p.m. PST

Don't forget the Numidians! They are my next army I am doing (as well as allies for my Polybians).

williamb22 Mar 2015 7:11 p.m. PST

In addition to the Numidians in Africa, they had Spanish allies in Spain, Pergamum in Asia, And Aetolians in Greece. Standard Roman Consular army was two Roman legions and two Latin Alae with attached cavalry.

Lee Brilleaux Fezian22 Mar 2015 8:50 p.m. PST

Well, if you think Romans are evil, they are already pretty evil by the Spanish wars. Nasty affairs, with a lot of bad faith bargaining and murdering those who'd negotiated a truce! (Also the sacks of Corinth and Carthage, and, indeed, the treatment of their own veterans ---) Complete bastards, really.

Ligurians, Numidians, Thracians, and all those Italians who – more Roman unpleasantness – are good enough to die in battle, but not to become citizens.

Tarantella22 Mar 2015 9:30 p.m. PST

All these allies could in their time field capable armies of their own.

You will have to collect them all. grin

Crazyivanov22 Mar 2015 9:31 p.m. PST

Lets not forget the Illyrians either.

GurKhan23 Mar 2015 2:21 a.m. PST

Most allies were used relatively locally, Spaniards in Spain, Cisalpine Gauls in Italy, and Pergamenes and other Greeks in Greece and Asia. The main exception is that Numidians were brought along in relatively small numbers all over the place, and that cohorts of Ligurians crop up in Greece in 171 and in Numidia shortly before the Marian reforms.

You can find most of the evidence in Polybius, Livy and Appian, who are all easily available in translation on the web. Or it's all in "Armies of the Macedonian and Punic Wars", by, errr, some guy whose name escapes me.

Sobieski23 Mar 2015 6:05 a.m. PST

You'd find Cretans everywhere too, methinks.

Lee Brilleaux Fezian23 Mar 2015 11:31 a.m. PST

I agree!

Oh, "Cretans."

williamb23 Mar 2015 8:40 p.m. PST

Also a few elephants after defeating Carthage

Sorry - only verified members can post on the forums.