"contents of the little ammo box with 4 handles?" Topic

Hi ,There ,
I would like to know how many round should be there in the litle amo box with the 4 handels?
greetings serge joe

got a picture of which one you mean? Which country? I am sure there is plenty of data if you can explain further

French pieces any size!
greetings serge joe

Do you mean the coffret (the small chest to the right of the drawing)?

If so:

12 pdr 9 rounds
8 pdr 15 rounds
4 pdr 18 rounds
6" howitzer 4 rounds

You really need to get some books.

Can I suggest Haythorthwaite's 'The Napoleonic Source Book'?

Yes
that is the one you mean the coffret (the small chest to the right of the drawing)? greetings serge joe

And yes ihave two books man at arms no picts or amounts
2 french artillery by patrick griffith greetings serge joe

The question is a little more complex, and perhaps interesting, as their were not only differences between the various nations as to where the rounds were placed, but also in the concept of artillery re-supply.

The load-out given above is for the older French Gribeauval pieces.
The later An XI designs were, in general, less heavy and permitted additional rounds to be place in the coffret ….
--- canon de 12-livre : 8 roundshot and 3 case-shot (vice 9 roundshot for the Gribeauval 12-livre)
--- canon de 6-livre : 18 roundshot and 3 case-shot (vice 15 roundshot for the Gribeauval 8-livre)
--- obusier de 24-livre : 6 shells and 2 case-shot (vice 4 case-shot for the Gribeauval obusier)
See link – page 202 et seq.
This was really rather important for the French, as they – as a matter of doctrine – removed and tried to place in a covered location their rather large 4-wheeled caissons, as decribed by the général comte Gassendi in the linked text. So the rounds in the coffret were intended to be used first, and then per re-supplied from a caisson as needed.

The increase in rounds in the French coffret for their An-Xi limbers was in line with contemporary systems of other nations. As a comparison, for Russian pieces of the obr. 1805 ….
--- 12-lber gun : 2 roundshot on the gun carriage + 4 roundshot on the limber
--- 6-lber gun : 4 roundshot on the gun carriage + 20 roundshot or case-shot on the limber
--- 1/4 (12-lber calibre) unicorn : 3 case-shot on the gun carriage + 12 shells or case-shot on the limber
--- 1/2 pud (24-lber calibre) unicorn : 3 case-shot on the limber
See link – et seq.
The issue of rounds on the carriages and limbers was less important for the Russians, as they placed one of their smaller, two-wheeled caissons immediately to the rear of the piece. They then took their rounds directly from the caisson, the rounds on the carriages and limbers being intended for a reserve or emergeny use.

I would be curious to know the approach to this question used by the British, Prussians, Saxons and Austrians.

- Sasha

You don't like Google, do you Serge? :)

dear lLord Hill ,
Google is not everything some things are hard to find even at google greetings serge joe