"French cuirassiers 1794 - 28mm Perry conversions" Topic

I converted a few Perrys plastic Napoleonic cuirassiers into a French Republican unit ;-)).

This is my first batch.

I used a Hoffmann plate for reference.

but now back to 18 mm ABs

Not being an expert I don't know how accurate they are historically, but as far as wargame figures go they are splendid. Good work.

I am Irish.

So, I am rarely lost for words.

I love to see conversions anyway…but these……..

Ok, the plastics work to change the heads, the riders' hair instead of the helmet tail…the work gone into the trumpeter….great

But what about that painting?

If I only mention the riders' faces, the horses' necks, the dappled grey.

Folk are very generous when someone else shows their own work and they say "cool" or something such.

These pictures I will save………….look at the legs on the grey, never mind how well he has done the dapple. This I will learn from. Best work I have seen this year!

Someone will tell us they should be riding blacks, but for that era I guess they were grateful for a horse!

Wonderful conversions and painting!!

"Not being an expert I don't know how accurate they are historically, but as far as wargame figures go they are splendid."

Don't worry, if there's one thing about Von Winterfeldt, its a studious sense of research and accuracy ;-)

Great work!

Beautifully done. I really like the combination of cuirasses and bicornes .

vW,
These are great and extremely well done with a great conversion thrown in.

It deffinately shows that there is not allot of difference in the ability to paint a 28mm as well as you can paint an 18mm figure.

John

WOW…..Now that is a beautiful looking unit.

Excellent…in every possible way!

Wow, this just convinces me more to do War of 2nd Coalition.

Horseshoes! They got horseshoes!

Just wow

Beautiful and Wonderful conversions!

Very , very nice! Love the work .Thanks for sharing.

Excellent!

Excellent! This is what we need… to be able to buy!

Beautiful paint-job on the horses.

Your painting is superb and the horses paint work looks amazing. It's shame that the small horse got made as it has been in a compressor and has a back that is far too short

Are these horses really too short? Is it not just the saddle cloth on the trumpeter's mount that makes the horse look that way?

There is a series of horses (I cannot remember who first produced them, but I know Murawski, amongst others, use them) which are far too slender at their rear end, but I thought the Perry plastics were just fine personally…….

Did you notice the cutaway coat of the trumpeter by the way……how about that for skill!

These are really special, real works of art right down to the horse shoes.
Great inspiration!

Greatness!!

Thanks for the feed back – as for the cut away coat, the credit is due to Alan Perry – I used a plastic French Dragoon and just made the coat tails longer.

"Just" he says. I've tried that a few times. You can tell it is a different cut, when I try, but only just! That trumpeter conversion is inspiring. Are the heads from those infantry you showed last week?

actually you are right, I just checked on my conversions photo, I did a bit of the lapels – waistcoat etc.

here a side view

I used different heads from the Perrys plastics, mostly French line infantry, I should have used such with mousetaches, there the cuirassiers at some stage in 1793 were elevated to eltie = greandier status.
For my next batch I will add moustaches and do more big cravattes in due revolutionary style.

My personal favourite is the officer, where I did extra long highly fashionable coat tails.

VW, you should be working with the Perry's. These are as good as any commercial figure. The plume alone is fabulous!!

The painted trumpeter is fantastic, but only now that I see the original do I really appreciate what you have achieved here. yes, the plume but also the pocket on the tails, converting the valise to rounded, enlarging the giberne. I guess the darker green is traditional "Greenstuff", what is the paler?

Incredible skill here…….

the paler is a mix of green stuff with magic sculpt, its quality is changing over drying time, at some late stage you can do very sharp cuts and edges.

The officers plume is not due to my skills but to Frank Germershaus, who taught me sculpting and who sculpts the excellent Black Husar Miniatures (7YW)

fantastic effort, a really lot of work into those guys, well done sir!

cheers
Matt

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And I'm here looking at the work of this talented master both in painting and sculpting, not finding words capable to describe my pleasure. Thanks!

Incredible! That clean sculpting work and great paint

von Winterfelt: Its'already been said by the others above! I hope you can find time to post some photos of your AB 18's. I would love to see what you can do with them! Thanks, John Miller

vW has at least one post that I know of that shows some of his AB's

Check the link below.

TMP link

VonBlucher: Thanks very much for sending the link. I have trouble just getting mustaches on 15/18's, I could never get the detail he does. John Miller

Amazing!

I have spent the afternoon trying to create La Maison du Roi for the First Restoration….I have tried to make the longer coat tails with the pockets (as here)………I could..no I will….weep. I cannot remotely reproduce this. I hope my painting skills will compensate, but, right now, my figures are truly awful compared with these……….they will get better and I do have Niel's coach for Louis XVIII to escape within….

I think his skills will compensate….. wait till you see this!

I think it is brilliant, because of his skills, not mine

Thanks for all the kind comments.

As for further 18 mm

TMP link

and

TMP link

some others a bit more in the past exist as well, I cannot find the links.

It is funny painting 18 mm and 28 mm – when painting 28 mm I moan how easy it would be to do 18 mm and the other way round, but the change of scale is a good way for me to keep me motivated to paint

@deadhead

It shouldn't be that difficult if you leave the rider on the horse, put a bit talc underneath those parts where the coat tails should be – then put on the sculpt and shape it, cut it whereever and when it reaches a rubbery consistency then take the miniature gently off – the coat tails should stay.

Here my sculpt mix of about 50 percent green stuff with 50 percent magic sculpt helps a lot.

Von W, must thank you for that tip on the lengthened coat tails. It worked! I now have two mounted Black Musketeers and two Gendarmes du Roi to accompany Louis to his carriage and on his escape!

Not to your standard, but much better than my first attempt. Now, if I could only paint them all to your level…………

Looking forward to see your work – keep up the enthusiasm

Only just came across this thread. Sorry for the necromancy. Not really. It's worth it. :)

Doing conversion work myself on 28's, I'm very impressed by your results. I keep staring at the trumpeter's and officer's plumes – they look machine-made! And the coat tails look superb, with the godet line behind the turnbacks. Everything looks effortlessly done, it's so clean.

I'm a bit envious.

Cheers

It's worth it to see these again. I have saved all these images for inspiration and my education!

Not sure which is best…the conversions, the painting of the figures or that grey horse……….the conversions win it for me. Outstanding

It may look effortless – but especially the scabbards were very painfull to do.

The plumes are actually not that difficult in case you use my sculpt which is a mix of Green Stuff (75 pervent yellow and 25 percent blue) with Magic sculpt of about 50 : 50 – after a curing time, the mixture gets very leastic, all what I did was to cut in circular line and then pull out the "feather" with a dull flat halfround tip metal tool, on the next circular creat the "feather" overlapping, the coat tails are really very easy

really inspiring conversions Von Winterfeldt!

THAT's a good work!
Congrats von Winterfeldt!

Amicalement
Armand

Thanks for the tips, von W. Appreciated. :)

I've also found certain scabbards painful; it's the symmetrical nature of the shapes and details. Nothing organic about some of them. Nowhere to hide!

I have to lengthen a cuirassier sword blade soon; I expect that will be similarly painful to make it look perfect. Fortunately, any inconsistencies can usually be sanded into shape afterwards.

Cheers

about blades, try to get aluminium wire, which you can squeeze flat and even cut to shape

Thanks. I've currently pinned the blunted tip of a too-short blade (no small task I do assure) with the pin projecting to the correct length, ready to receive the sculpted extension. The things we do for greater 'accuracy' . . . !

;)

Cheers

Hi von Winterfeldt,

I may have flags for these guys almost ready. I sent an email, but you can see the 1st version on my blog here…

link

I asked a couple of questions about these as well.

1) Is the text on the scrolls the same both sides?

2) How many pins attached the flag to the pole?

And also, this version has the Royalist emblems still visible, so I will do another with them patched over and/or removed.

Colin