Jemima Fawr | 08 Mar 2015 9:22 a.m. PST |
Here's my first Waterloo farm – La Haye (not to be confused with the better-known La Haye-Sainte). The model is by Tiger Terrain and the figures are 15mm AB Figures' Dutch Line Infantry:
La Haye-Sainte is also now under the brush and will be followed next week by Hougoumont. |
Mark RedLinePS | 08 Mar 2015 9:49 a.m. PST |
Very nice indeed. Looking forward to the next. |
VonBlucher | 08 Mar 2015 10:05 a.m. PST |
Looking good, I've never seen you post any of your AB's. Getting ready for Waterloo this year? John |
deadhead | 08 Mar 2015 10:07 a.m. PST |
Great work. I love the realistic woodwork on the doors, grey/black/white highlights, instead of yellow brown of freshly sanded wood. For Hgmt especially a word of advice. The lower courses of blocks surrounding such farms are stone, not brick. More the colour of the barn and stable walls above. The short section of wall around the gate would have been red brick, whether lime washed is a topic flogged to death here, in the last few weeks. |
Jemima Fawr | 08 Mar 2015 10:16 a.m. PST |
Ta! John, Traditionally I always gloss-varnished them, so they don't look very good in photographs. I then had a 12-year sabbatical from Napoleonics after flogging myself to death for the AB Figures Wargames Weekends and the NAM Waterloo epic of 2002. Now I'm back Napoleonicking, I opt for satin-matt varnish, which is far better for photographs. That said, a lot of the stuff I did for those BIG games (Eggmuehl, Auerstaedt, etc) was in Wargames Illustrated many years ago. Deadhead, Cheers, yes, I've been to the site a lot over the years and I've been studying my photos to note which bits of Hougoumont are stone and which are brick. Your (and others') comments on the recent La Haye Sainte thread have been invaluable, so thanks very much indeed! Are you finally of the opinion that LHS was mainly/totally red brick? |
wrgmr1 | 08 Mar 2015 10:43 a.m. PST |
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Joes Shop | 08 Mar 2015 10:56 a.m. PST |
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deadhead | 08 Mar 2015 11:10 a.m. PST |
Oh LHS was/is red brick……….of that I have no doubt………but could you see the red?????? Everything still tells me it was coated with a very patchy layer of limewash, as is today every farm in the area. I took a Google Earth maps walk past LH and Papelotte and then LHS just few minutes ago. White interior walls with a black pitched lower course is now the norm. La Haye really is looking a bit neglected and surprised to see so much building work is being allowed. Possibly, even, more red than white on 18th June but I know what looks right to moi………. |
Jemima Fawr | 08 Mar 2015 11:55 a.m. PST |
Cheers, Patchy whitewash it is then… :) |
Timmo uk | 08 Mar 2015 12:44 p.m. PST |
These Tiger terrain buildings are superb. Does anybody know if they will be at Salute or if anybody will be stocking them? |
Saber6 | 08 Mar 2015 12:57 p.m. PST |
what is the dimensions of the base? |
Jemima Fawr | 08 Mar 2015 2:04 p.m. PST |
Saber, Sadly I don't have the model to hand right now, but I think that the dimensions are listed on tiger Terrain's website. If you want to estimate it, that officer's base is an inch square. I should point out that I added the base, as I wanted to keep the farm together as one solid piece – the models themselves aren't based, though there is a lovely cobbled courtyard piece (to which the exterior walls and gates are moulded). I should add that all the pieces fit perfectly together and they required absolutely no sanding, trimming, filing or filling whatsoever. |
Dave Jackson | 08 Mar 2015 2:22 p.m. PST |
I picked them all up from Steve just before he went on "sabbatical", glad he's back now! |
Jemima Fawr | 08 Mar 2015 3:28 p.m. PST |
I'd never heard of them until last week! Steve has been extremely responsive and has provided first-class service, as well as a first-rate product. |
Crusoe66 | 08 Mar 2015 5:27 p.m. PST |
Nicely painted, I picked this set up years ago this might be the inspiration I need to finish them. |
stoneman1810 | 08 Mar 2015 6:00 p.m. PST |
Went to their website – these buildings look awesome! I especially like the crisp detail and the very straight edges to windows and doors. I did a La Haye Sainte for a client a couple of years ago (Hovels) and was not very impressed with the detail. I will be ordering the La Haye Sainte for my own collection! |
Jemima Fawr | 08 Mar 2015 6:57 p.m. PST |
Excellent! Yes, I normally hate painting terrain, but I'm really enjoying these. My La Haye Sainte is now three-quarters finished. Hope to have it finished before I finish the night-shift! :) |
deadhead | 09 Mar 2015 4:44 a.m. PST |
The lime washing issue. See this link and that also takes you back to the LHS discussion TMP link |
Jemima Fawr | 09 Mar 2015 8:04 a.m. PST |
Cheers, yes that discussion has been my main source of info. I didn't quite finish LHS last night – just need to pick out the window-frames, gloss-varnish the pond, base the whole thing and add a bit of greenery around the edges and in the kitchen-garden. Having done the (streaky) whitewash, I rather like it and am now somewhat hesitant to mess it up with patches of brickwork showing through, so I'll probably leave it as it is. |
Old Glory | 09 Mar 2015 11:51 a.m. PST |
Although the buildings are nice they seem way to small for the figures -- I like buildings in scale with the figures -not some "ground scale/figure ratio" that does not really exist. looks like a cattle corral? Regards Russ Dunaway |
deadhead | 09 Mar 2015 12:11 p.m. PST |
Of course you are right. Way too small, but I have much sympathy with our wargaming brethren. (Right now the real thing is a real dump frankly) Try modelling Hgmt in 28 mm scale (or even anything remotely like it). If you invest in Hovels' brilliance for the manor complex, it looks right, but is still far too small. But that is totally ignoring the walled garden. But then, hang on, there is still the orchard further east! Even the LHS farm was far bigger than we realise, looking today, and could not possibly be represented on a table. I really treasure Hovels' arched gateway into LHS and it sits in my garage undercoated in black and one day……it looks "right" but is about half the size of the real thing |
Jemima Fawr | 09 Mar 2015 4:33 p.m. PST |
Russ, However, I'd argue that the contrast between figure scale and ground scale is often vast. If we have Hougoumont to match the figure scale it'll fill most of the wargames table even before you conside the surrounding gardens, orchards and woodlands. We once did a Samurai siege game and while we modelled some beautiful castles (as seen in Wargames Illustrated), if we'd done them to match the figure scale they would have roughly matched the size of my house. Compromises therefore had to be made. What I want are models that look *something* like what us being represented, but still try to squeeze into the groundscale and at the same time don't look like 15mm figures standing around 6mm buildings. That was certainly Tiger Terrain's self-stated design brief and I firmly believe that they've succeeded. |
Old Glory | 09 Mar 2015 5:44 p.m. PST |
I would agree that the farms could not be the exact size in comparison to the figures, it would seem that they could still be large enough to give the impression that it should? I never actually put figures into buildings, built up areas,etc anyway and instead have flags the represent each unit in those areas. When I wargame I try to get the proper appearance so that the table/game actually takes on the appearance of a "moving diorama". I make my roads, hill, woods, etc somewhat in scale with the figures --as much as possible. Years ago (1975) we did the battle of Aspern and Essling and I began to construct the granary -- my plan was to make it to scale with the figures -- I quickly abandoned that --LOL. The other extreme -- I watched an entire game of Gettysburg in 28mm using Monopoly buildings and twine for roads --- looked dreadful !!!! We all have our own ways. Either way --I did say the figures look nice -- the buildings actually look nice also and what is important is you have fun with the game. No offense meant. Just an off the cuff observation/comment. regards Russ Dunaway |
Jemima Fawr | 09 Mar 2015 6:01 p.m. PST |
Oh heck, no offence taken! :) Yeah, Essling Granary's a tricky one. I once saw a model that was '15mm', yet was actually about 1/300th! It really didn't look right at all. |