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LORDGHEE07 Mar 2015 2:52 p.m. PST

The soon subs will not be hidden.

What scared the submarine detection crowd was the recent realization that computers had become cheap and powerful enough to make it possible to detect submarines via the faint signs (like disturbance of the surface waters above them) that they leave. It has been known for decades that these telltale signs existed and that with sufficient computing power and sensitive enough sensors you could use this method to track submarines in real time. In other words, it no longer mattered how quiet a sub was, just whether it was there or not and moving. U.S. Navy experts had been doing the math and realized that the time was rapidly approaching, if not already here, when the sensors were sensitive enough and the computers fast enough to unmask all current subs.

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Personal logo Saber6 Supporting Member of TMP Fezian07 Mar 2015 3:26 p.m. PST

sensitive enough sensors

in the right place of course. Sure there are naval bottlenecks, but there is still a LOT of ocean

Personal logo Condotta Supporting Member of TMP07 Mar 2015 3:34 p.m. PST

Good, if they think that's where a sub is, they'll be all the easier to fool.

Sobieski07 Mar 2015 5:46 p.m. PST

A hundred dummies for every sub sounds feasible….

platypus01au07 Mar 2015 5:57 p.m. PST

Whales….

Weasel07 Mar 2015 6:26 p.m. PST

I doubt it'll eliminate the subs but it'll make them have to be more careful.

gamershs07 Mar 2015 10:16 p.m. PST

We have drone aircraft, how about drone subs. Not to attack but to mask the real sub. Let's see what would happen when 200 subs are moving toward your fleet and you KNOW there are only 3 REAL subs in the area. EEEEKKKKK!!!!!

Then one day the drones are the real subs!

Dark Knights And Bloody Dawns08 Mar 2015 3:20 a.m. PST

Plenty of technology out there already that has probably been used for military purposes.

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David Manley08 Mar 2015 6:54 a.m. PST

Systems similar to Jason have been around for over 20 years now.

Jcfrog08 Mar 2015 8:39 a.m. PST

Yesterday it was about a sub destroying a whole Cvn squadron. They should have been told of this, obviously.

Lion in the Stars08 Mar 2015 12:35 p.m. PST

There was a time when you could track a Soviet sub several hundred feet down by the wake it left on the surface (piss-poor screw design), FROM ORBIT.

Looks like the orbital sensors have gotten a lot more sensitive.

I wonder, do whales leave a similar track, or is their propulsion method simple enough that they don't?

wyeayeman08 Mar 2015 1:33 p.m. PST

I imagine a whales up and down tail motion is so 'wave like' that it will sort of blend in. Whereas screw turbulence is so un-natural that it is bound to leave some effect.

jpattern208 Mar 2015 2:05 p.m. PST

It's child's play for a computer program to differentiate natural disturbances from mechanical.

Well, child's play for a child who's a programming wizard.

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