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Tango0104 Mar 2015 10:41 p.m. PST

,,, Any 'Moderate' Syrian Rebel Allies.

" Nusra Front militants seized American weapons and food supplies in Syria
* Products were provided to the Western-backed rebel group Harakat Hazm
* But the rebels disbanded last week and their warehouses were overrun
* Images emerged as Nusra Front announced plans to leave Al Qaeda
* Rebel group is considering the split to attract Qatari financiers who could help the militants create a terror organisation to rival ISIS…"
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Mako1104 Mar 2015 10:48 p.m. PST

Predictable, so good we didn't give them some of the heavier weaponry they wanted, or AQ/ISIS would now have it, which is why it wasn't given in the first place.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP In the TMP Dawghouse04 Mar 2015 11:06 p.m. PST

Another missed opportunity ? Only time will tell …

Only Warlock05 Mar 2015 4:35 a.m. PST

Incredibly stupid idea to arm them in the first place.

Klebert L Hall05 Mar 2015 8:38 a.m. PST

Foreign policy lately has not exactly been "top-notch".
-Kle.

Cyrus the Great05 Mar 2015 9:16 a.m. PST

Foreign policy thinking would first have to embrace the 21st century. The Kurds do all the heavy lifting and the U.S. gives them Bleeped text support, because we don't want to upset our so-called, NATO ally Turkey. We still think of Iraq as a country and we don't want to arms the Kurds too much because they could exercise self-determination in the future. Too much 20th century thinking going on by our government.

Bangorstu05 Mar 2015 1:37 p.m. PST

Of course had we armed them, they might have been able to deal with ISIS…

Who have, after all, got all the heavy wepaonry they need from the Iraqi army.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik05 Mar 2015 2:17 p.m. PST

Our 'support' for these moderate rebels were half-hearted at best. It's a tacit admission that ousting Assad is not in our best interests and will only further destabilize the region. Any meaningful support to these moderate non-jihadist rebels will likely be countered by Assad's Iranian and Russian patrons, and doesn't help with the fight against Daesh since Assad and his shiite Alawite sect are their mortal enemies.

It's just as well, since these moderates really are between a rock and a hard place in a region of extremes.

Lion in the Stars05 Mar 2015 2:54 p.m. PST

Foreign policy lately has not exactly been "top-notch".

Since about 2008, though the foreign policy decisions made in 2003-04 weren't much better.

But I still don't see any way of stomping DAESH without lots of boots on the ground.

15mm and 28mm Fanatik05 Mar 2015 4:22 p.m. PST

But I still don't see any way of stomping DAESH without lots of boots on the ground.

As long as they're Persian boots as opposed to American ones it's fine by me.

Gear Pilot05 Mar 2015 5:00 p.m. PST
Lion in the Stars05 Mar 2015 6:36 p.m. PST

@Kyoteblue: Ambush Alley or AK47 Republic, and I prefer Ambush Alley.

Mako1106 Mar 2015 12:30 a.m. PST

An awful lot of that Iraqi army weaponry came from the USA, and they got an awful lot of training from us, not that they put any of that to use, effectively at least.

Turning over more weaponry to civilians wouldn't have turned out any better, I suspect.

Think Renaissance, Italian Wars in the Middle East, kyote, with lots of factions involved, paid armies, and lots of backstabbing and double-dealing. That'd be a good start for the macro level, which of course trickles down to the individual factions as well, each with their own, varied agendas.

I'd go with a modification of the AK-47 rules, and 15mm scale, for the skirmish levels games.

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