" Did he die jousting?" Topic
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jowady | 03 Mar 2015 11:23 a.m. PST |
Of course I assume the injuries could have been sustained in combat as well. link |
Great War Ace | 03 Mar 2015 12:58 p.m. PST |
Wouldn't a knight have somewhat curved thigh bones from life in the saddle? A twisting fracture to a leg bone could come from any number of other ways than falling from a horse, a fall from a scaffold or ladder being so very common (working on rethatching a roof, or maintenance on a church, etc.) Broken ribs would occur in a fall upon some object, like a water trough, and could have happened more than once in a long working life. The shoulder injury isn't specified. If it's just a broken shoulder I doubt that it happened from a lance thrust. Of course a fall from a horse, ladder or scaffolding could result in exactly the same kind of break. The other feature that makes me doubt his "knightly" status is the common grave materials. Even a poor knight (which this guy would not be if he was in a tournament) would have more of a coffin than a couple slabs of rock. Being buried in with so many commoners tells me he was also a commoner. But knights hold romantic interest, so announce the find as a "knight". The fact that knights made up less than 2% of the male population is the most telling factor against IDing this skeleton as that of a knight. Without the curved thigh bones, the more noble grave, the injuries are unlikely to be jousting/combat related. Warfare was an extremely occasional thing, especially in mostly peaceful, law-abiding Merry Olde England. Professional soldiers made up no more than c. 5% of the population, and spent most of their time unemployed, i.e. making a living in more mundane or common ways…. |
Random Die Roll | 03 Mar 2015 6:24 p.m. PST |
The article puts the skeleton at 1100-1300, which also runs in the correct time of "The Crusades" You leave for the "Holy Land" fight a few battles and if your lucky you return to your home a knight. There were plenty of common soldier knights--or as some put it--knights not of noble birth. This knight may still have been poor and in service to a Lord. As the article also states that the approximate age was 45 and the time line fits the crusades---I am putting him in the role of a trainer. Multiple broken ribs--healed over time--I am thinking he may have been in at least one real battle or more and then returned back to his "Lord or Patron" and spent many years in service training new knights. |
jowady | 03 Mar 2015 10:57 p.m. PST |
The experts say that the injuries are consistent with knightly activities. They also say that the remains show that he was originally from Normandy. it would be pretty odd for a handyman to be that mobile. |
Cerdic | 05 Mar 2015 1:04 a.m. PST |
A bit early for 'jousting' isn't it? Tournaments were the thing when he was alive. I love the caption to the photo telling you it is a 'modern recreation'. I'm glad they did that otherwise you might think it was a genuine medieval photo….. |
latto6plus2 | 05 Mar 2015 8:41 a.m. PST |
Given its the mail Im surprised the headline isnt "immigrant takes job from local knight" |
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