Extra Crispy | 02 Mar 2015 5:38 p.m. PST |
Did the Soviets ever use camo on their kit? Talking guns, tanks? Seems like it's mostly just one sea of green? What proportion were in camo versus plain old green? |
Frederick | 02 Mar 2015 6:18 p.m. PST |
From what I have seen in period photos and videos it would be about 90 – 100% plain green |
Cherno | 02 Mar 2015 6:21 p.m. PST |
Well, they obviously used whitewash in the snow, and occasionally splotches of light brown color. |
Sundance | 02 Mar 2015 6:42 p.m. PST |
There were some that had brown over the green, but yes, mostly green. |
Weasel | 02 Mar 2015 7:19 p.m. PST |
I wonder if any of those brown splotches might be crew improvisation. |
Extra Crispy | 02 Mar 2015 7:20 p.m. PST |
Well, I think my crews are going to improvise like all get out… |
Lion in the Stars | 02 Mar 2015 7:44 p.m. PST |
link link Not to mention the MIG Ammo camo set. |
Winston Smith | 02 Mar 2015 7:46 p.m. PST |
Go for it! If this were the 18th C I would say "as the Colonel shall decide". |
Ron W DuBray | 02 Mar 2015 8:46 p.m. PST |
all the photos I had seen and history I have read its was green/one color with mud sometimes splash on. that would make it look like green and brown camo. |
Simo Hayha | 02 Mar 2015 9:19 p.m. PST |
link don't own it personally but heard it recommended also some of the armor at war series. link There are definitely some camo schemes they used but yes a majority were green |
sneakgun | 02 Mar 2015 9:42 p.m. PST |
Usually the company sluggards did the painting, at least that was the way it was back in the day….they painted the ship when she was in the yards. |
Mako11 | 03 Mar 2015 12:52 a.m. PST |
I've got some prepainted T-34s that have brown camo stripes over the green. Very broad stripes. Not sure how historical they are, but presumably someone did a little research to come up with that scheme. |
Barin1 | 03 Mar 2015 5:46 a.m. PST |
You're right, most of the ammo/artillery were plain green most of the time. Whitewash in winter, tree branches and grass patches if the crew had time to mask their tank. link google search, but you should exclude all World of Tanks pics as I doubt they're historically accurate. There's an instruction from 1941 on camo application, of course in Russian. link Some b&w pictures of 1941 early Barbarossa Soviet camo: link |
farnox | 03 Mar 2015 10:50 a.m. PST |
Mark, to answer your question, I certainly use camo on my WWII soviet AFVs. Early war camo was not used much as units were expended quickly and there was not much time to bother with it, exception being winter camo. However from 43-45 as the Soviets gained the upper hand they did use more. The basic colors of dark brown and sand were applied in various patterns and combinations. It was not uncommon to see ATGs with camo pattern as well. There is a famous Guards JSU regiment in Hungary that had swirling 3 color camo. I have about a 25% of my units in camo. All green is just too boring. |
Andy ONeill | 03 Mar 2015 1:36 p.m. PST |
The vast majority was plain 4bo. Dark brown and yellow earth patches or wide stripes over that were authorised but the exception. 4bo is one of those colours subjected to much debate. Probably fs34257 when new though. |
Martin Rapier | 04 Mar 2015 1:08 a.m. PST |
As above, a few units used camo (sand/brown/green) but in the main, just plain green. I do all of mine green. Some variety comes from markings and air recognition symbols. |
warhawkwind | 04 Mar 2015 9:29 a.m. PST |
And you dont have to use the same shade of green for EVERY vehicle you own. There was a wide variety of greens used thought the war due to availability of paint, and the areas of deployment. |
number4 | 06 Mar 2015 8:06 p.m. PST |
Nonsense. There was 4bo green and 4bo green, backed up with 4bo green with a little 4bo green on the side. The Soviet Union was a command economy, and it's a long established myth that Soviet factories just happened to have all these different varieties of green paint hanging around in their stock rooms. They used what they had – which was (wait for it…) 4bo green! That said, the precise shade did vary as to how long the paint had been in storage and the amount of dilution when it was mixed to go in the factory spray guns. It also darkened of time and exposure to sunlight – not that this would be a major factor in wartime produced vehicles rushed to the front. The units that used the 3 color camouflage were mostly deployed in the southern regions 4bogreen.com/colors |