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esvoogd01 Mar 2015 10:49 a.m. PST

Does anyone know if the trumpeters for the two Bavarian Dragoon regiments reversed colors? Or maybe used a red comb to represent trumpeters??

Personal logo Artilleryman Supporting Member of TMP01 Mar 2015 11:42 a.m. PST

They did not have reversed colours but did wear a red plume, sometimes a hanging version. They had false sleeves hanging to the rear of their shoulders. Their cuffs, lapels and collars were trimmed in lace of the regimental button colour.

Supercilius Maximus03 Mar 2015 5:56 a.m. PST
von Winterfeldt04 Mar 2015 1:07 p.m. PST

nice tank

esvoogd04 Mar 2015 1:50 p.m. PST

Yes, nice tank but the epaulettes are all wrong.

Supercilius Maximus04 Mar 2015 2:55 p.m. PST

No idea where that came from, folks!!!

In response to Artilleryman's comment, I said I thought that the hanging plume and false sleeves – which I think are in a drawing of Chevauxlegers crossing a river in Russia during the summer of 1812 – post-dated the Dragoons (disbanded in 1811).

[The drawing was either by Faber du Four, or the other famous German soldier-artist whose name escapes me.]

von Winterfeldt06 Mar 2015 12:08 a.m. PST

It is by Albrecht Adam, Chevaulegers crossing the Düna 1812.

I know about a Dragoon of 1807 by Kobell, rear view, very nice, as written above with false sleeves but usual white plume as for the usual Dragoons.

When I find time I will it put up here.

von Winterfeldt06 Mar 2015 9:20 a.m. PST

Here the promised photo

picture

Supercilius Maximus06 Mar 2015 1:14 p.m. PST

Ah, Albrecht Adam – that's the chap.

Is that the "Siege of Klosen" painting?

von Winterfeldt07 Mar 2015 5:36 a.m. PST

siege at Cosel 1807 – yes indeed, a lot of other interesting details are to be seen on the complete painting

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP08 Mar 2015 7:59 a.m. PST

it's not a tank. It is a self propelled gun on a JS chassis……..

Interesting to see another country where trumpeters did not ride greys. I knew "British" and Saxon (G du C anyway!), now Bavarians did not……..docked tails on some as well!

von Winterfeldt09 Mar 2015 6:26 a.m. PST

Bavarian Chevaulegers however – trumpeters with grey horses.

Supercilius Maximus09 Mar 2015 5:58 p.m. PST

Now you mention it, the horses actually look rather small.

Artistic licence, or accurate rendition do you think?

von Winterfeldt13 Mar 2015 12:07 a.m. PST

as for the horses, accurate, most horses on modern paintings are far too big, the horse size is also confirmed by Klein.

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