Stepman3 | 26 Feb 2015 9:54 a.m. PST |
For s and giggles I went over to Frothers to see what the brew up is all about. I read a few dozen posts and was noticing how their members were mentioning TMP'ers. Not wanting to feel left out I entered my name into the search, To my surprise I had been mentioned a few times. The funniest to me was them thinking I could be Bill/Montey. I then tried to sign up but it wouldn't accept my email address…yeah, personally I think it's a bit strange all the editors as far as I know happen to be Filipino and we are so immersed into their lives, but to think I'm Bill is laughable… |
Texas Jack | 26 Feb 2015 10:00 a.m. PST |
Well since you have denied it, the Einsteins over there will be sure you are Bill. |
John the OFM | 26 Feb 2015 10:14 a.m. PST |
Some used to think that Bill was my son. Or was I Bill's son? I forget. I come up over there pretty regularly. |
redbanner4145 | 26 Feb 2015 1:24 p.m. PST |
I googled frothers to see what the ruckus was about. I don't understand why everyone gets worked up over devices to steam milk. |
Gunfreak | 26 Feb 2015 1:38 p.m. PST |
Ah had to check out my name to. Im only mentioned a few times, but nothing good is said about me :) Im aperantly I've always seen him as a fat, smelly Anders Brevik type. I also never have dates and I'm a degenerate. |
wrgmr1 | 26 Feb 2015 1:43 p.m. PST |
I did a search as well and found 2 references. One where a comment on the Frothers fracas brought forth a rather derogatory comment. |
Texas Jack | 26 Feb 2015 1:54 p.m. PST |
I think derogatory comments are all there is over there. Oh well, not my problem, they can certainly talk about me all they want, and stew in their own juices. Glad I am not like them! |
David Manley | 26 Feb 2015 2:28 p.m. PST |
Many "Frothers" are also "TMPers". I think they head on over there to let off steam every now and then. I find it amusing that people think that the two groups are separate communities :) (apart from the exiles that Bill banned from here of course) |
Texas Jack | 26 Feb 2015 2:47 p.m. PST |
I have found that the majority of those at Frothers who are still able to post here are not my favorite people (and I am sure the feeling is mutual). And besides, why would I want to spend my time at a place I am not welcome, and is so vulgar? "Be ye not unequally yoked…" and all that. |
napthyme | 26 Feb 2015 3:29 p.m. PST |
I don't post there simply because I can't handle dealing with mean hateful people anymore. The day TMP gets to be the same I will be gone from here as well. I prefer to spend my energy helping someone who needs it or lifting someone up that needs there day brightened. There is to much hate in this world as it is already. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Feb 2015 3:35 p.m. PST |
Even the Frothers recognize the decline of their forum. General Paranoia: this and the football thread are the only two active threads in the Frothpot and the longest running thread on the site. There's not much else to look at so people come here.The "vast majority of wargamers" couldn't give a toss what goes on here. Frothers pretty much lost what it had going for it long before this thread. Various things killed off the community here… Hastati: I personally keep tabs on this stain of a thread by the TMP Reject Refugee Gang because it is what Frothers is known for now, and that's sad. A Chaotic Humphrey: …sucking the life out of the rest of the forum. A lack of willingness to engage elsewhere, with other topics (and even pollute other threads with TMP stuff – the Ukraine thread, for example), to offer constructive input – just keep posting here and claiming that it's the only active thread on the forum as a self-justification. The bitterness, nastiness, and bullying attitude also infects other threads. Oh yes, Frothers always had that edgy reputation, but it was directed and fun when it happened (just like some of the comments and posts on this thread have made me laugh), but for some posters on this thread they've let it be their whole reason and that sceptic sourness infects other threads where it has no place. It's become a parody of itself.…I object to it for the reasons I outlined above – objectively I think it's destructive and it flows over and pollutes the rest of this forum. Subjectively I just don't get why you can't get over TMP and don't get over the obsession – but those are subjective reasons and each to their own… kawasaki: …Frothers was famous for being unwelcoming years before this thread, and a few good works that bung money at a charity, and being jolly nice chaps at Salute isn't going to change that perception.I hesitate to say you reap what you sow, but it. You reap what you sow… |
DaveBrock | 26 Feb 2015 3:50 p.m. PST |
Mr Editor, It seems that you are being sucked into the type of activity that some on Frothers want. You really would do far better to ignore them and get on with running TMP rather than reading their forum and posting about it here. |
Streitax | 26 Feb 2015 3:54 p.m. PST |
Hmpf, not a single mention. I must do more. Of what, I don't know. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Feb 2015 4:09 p.m. PST |
It seems that you are being sucked into the type of activity that some on Frothers want.You really would do far better to ignore them and get on with running TMP rather than reading their forum and posting about it here. I don't limit my free speech based on what the Frothers may or may not want. Frothers appears to be a classic case of an unmoderated forum dominated by those who will not moderate themselves, ultimately driving others away. The irony is that they attack TMP both for being too moderated, and for being under-moderated. |
DaveBrock | 26 Feb 2015 4:13 p.m. PST |
You might be wise to limit your free speech based on your own best interests. One part of Frothers suffers in the way that you describe; however, poor or partial moderation can be equally damaging to a forum and can ultimately also drive people away. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Feb 2015 4:20 p.m. PST |
You might be wise to limit your free speech based on your own best interests. I'm innocent, so why should I fear? One part of Frothers suffers in the way that you describe; however, poor or partial moderation can be equally damaging to a forum and can ultimately also drive people away. No moderator can please everyone. |
DaveBrock | 26 Feb 2015 4:34 p.m. PST |
"I'm innocent, so why should I fear?" Because you are making yourself look foolish and slightly obsessed and, to some people, as if you know more about the anonymous letters than you might. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Feb 2015 5:06 p.m. PST |
Because you are making yourself look foolish and slightly obsessed and, to some people, as if you know more about the anonymous letters than you might. I'm not going to apologize for being intelligent. |
Robert Kennedy | 26 Feb 2015 6:38 p.m. PST |
I am really impressed with those newbies who haven't posted any gaming posts at all or have been a member for a very short time that they know enough to speak on threads like this. |
sneakgun | 26 Feb 2015 6:48 p.m. PST |
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Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Feb 2015 7:07 p.m. PST |
I am really impressed with those newbies who haven't posted any gaming posts at all or have been a member for a very short time that they know enough to speak on threads like this. Speaking of which, I've checked the logs and "DaveBrock" is a Frother and a previously banned member. Please, let's leave the TMP forum discussions for TMP members. |
Robert Kennedy | 26 Feb 2015 7:16 p.m. PST |
I totally agree Bill. |
wrgmr1 | 26 Feb 2015 7:22 p.m. PST |
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Rebelyell2006 | 26 Feb 2015 8:42 p.m. PST |
Im aperantlyI've always seen him as a fat, smelly Anders Brevik type. The funniest to me was them thinking I could be Bill/Montey. At one point they thought I could be Bill as well. What a sad group of people. They can't tell if I am a redneck or a militant atheist because they seem to be too obsessed with stereotypes. We're really jamming their cultural radar. |
sneakgun | 26 Feb 2015 11:36 p.m. PST |
They don't even follow their own rules…. "You agree not to post any abusive, obscene, vulgar, slanderous, hateful, threatening,….." and then they wallow in childish name-calling. Sad. |
Lord Elpass | 27 Feb 2015 5:34 a.m. PST |
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alien BLOODY HELL surfer | 27 Feb 2015 6:31 a.m. PST |
pretty sure there is a rule where you cannot post from this forum onto others, how come the rule is ok the other way round – playing devils advocate and all that. a lot of the current people posting stuff that's not particularly nice are new members that were banned from on here or left here for various reasons and some seem to have an axe to grind (not all of them are that, but it has been noticeable over there). and not everyone is nasty or mean spirited there, quite a lot of very helpful and generous – albeit most are foul mouthed (which seems to be a very British thing) |
Editor in Chief Bill | 27 Feb 2015 7:05 a.m. PST |
…pretty sure there is a rule where you cannot post from this forum onto others, how come the rule is ok the other way round – playing devils advocate and all that. Check the FAQ? |
Stepman3 | 27 Feb 2015 9:36 a.m. PST |
Will this type of behavior result in this forum being shut down. Bill runs the forum but really couldn't he just pull the plug at anytime? If he gets a case of feelings and over a post he can just pack up his toys and go home…though I guess those that pay a membership would have some say over it…seems a site that was created (I assume,(I know Assume makes an Ass out of U and Me)) for the purpose of bringing the gaming world closer has created a huge rift over some petty B.S…. |
Rebelyell2006 | 27 Feb 2015 10:06 a.m. PST |
Why would TMP shut down? The TMP Talk board is the only discussion board on this site that mentions Frothers in any significant amount. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 27 Feb 2015 10:42 a.m. PST |
Will this type of behavior result in this forum being shut down… You mean, would the nonsense from Frothers cause me to lose heart and shut down TMP? No way! |
basileus66 | 28 Feb 2015 12:35 a.m. PST |
Innocence proves nothing, Bill (The Frothers Inquisition) |
combatpainter | 28 Feb 2015 11:25 a.m. PST |
I am a celebrity there and that is sad. Search combatpainter and you get a couple of threads showing me lots of love. Lol.. |
Rebelyell2006 | 28 Feb 2015 11:44 a.m. PST |
They're like a gaggle of gossiping, passive-aggressive schoolgirls. |
LesCM19 | 02 Mar 2015 7:50 a.m. PST |
I had a look out of idle curiosity to see what the fuss is all about. Couldn't make out what makes them tick. Certainly not a lot of useful gaming info or sensible opinions over there. Shan't be bothering again. |