sgt Dutch | 26 Feb 2015 7:10 a.m. PST |
Okay I have sent too much time trying to get the color right. Now I find these picture. Now I am going to worry about being perfect.
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MajorB | 26 Feb 2015 7:12 a.m. PST |
"So you thought you painted your German's correctly" - beware the apostrophe police!! |
Mooseheadd | 26 Feb 2015 7:14 a.m. PST |
Apostrophe Police at your service. What seems to be the problem? |
VonTed | 26 Feb 2015 7:25 a.m. PST |
I clearly need to go back paint a TON of collars |
Who asked this joker | 26 Feb 2015 7:26 a.m. PST |
This phenomena occurred in every military in WW2. Uniforms were made by many different companies. The prescribed color for the uniform was matched the best the company could do. The US field jacket in 1942 and 1943 was khaki. It varied from a sort of a butterscotch color to a light khaki depending on when it was made and who made it. Some of the German uniforms above are likely changed based on the year. They did actually vary the colors somewhat throughout the war. |
Vis Bellica | 26 Feb 2015 7:27 a.m. PST |
Yeah, Mooseheadd is right: the 'German' could refer to a German individual, and the fact that the post title is a quote could allow for a missing word. So if this were to be quoted in written form out of context, then it would be written: "So you thought you painted your German's (uniform) correctly" or maybe even "So you thought you painted your German (infantryman)'s (uniform) correctly". Stand down the apostrophe police. That said, the picture's a good illustration of why you shouldn't be too fussed about getting an exact shade right! R |
John the OFM | 26 Feb 2015 7:30 a.m. PST |
Just turn yourself and come along quietly and you will not get hurt. ---The Apostrophe Police |
WarWizard | 26 Feb 2015 7:35 a.m. PST |
This makes me feel much better knowing that I have a variety of color choices. Thanks. |
sgt Dutch | 26 Feb 2015 7:49 a.m. PST |
Well folks I can't change the topic. Maybe I should of said. Werhmacht. But than again I would be wrong. Maybe I should just delete the offensive post because of the title.. |
Yellow Admiral | 26 Feb 2015 8:08 a.m. PST |
If you can't modify the title, I guess I should stop holding my breath waiting for a noun. - Ix |
nazrat | 26 Feb 2015 8:19 a.m. PST |
Ah, hell, I don't care but I HAVE to say it-- "should of"? Ahem. 8)= |
Yellow Admiral | 26 Feb 2015 8:27 a.m. PST |
BTW, that photo is a nice find. Don't forget that different types and qualities of cloth/dye also fade at different rates, and fade to different colors. Grays may become lighter gray, turn gray-blue, fade to a teal/aqua, etc. Soldiers spending more time in the great outdoors will tend to have more fading than a staff officer or office worker. Of course, most paint jobs aim toward a platonic ideal and we all accept that. If you're really going to worry about something as picayune as the 50 Farben von dem Feldgrau, you should probably first be concerned with acquiring figures having realistic human proportions. Good luck with that. - Ix |
Dan Beattie | 26 Feb 2015 8:35 a.m. PST |
That reminds me, can anyone tell me the right shade of blue for French Young Guard uniforms at the battle of Wagram, in Vallejo paints? |
Dale Hurtt | 26 Feb 2015 9:07 a.m. PST |
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Tacitus | 26 Feb 2015 9:20 a.m. PST |
That's a great picture. nice mix of ranks, years, and color. You can even see the fine wools versus the courser blends. Thanks for the post. I love this hobby! P.S. As a badge-carrying member of the Apostrophe Police Force, I did not say anything because of the very same point brought forth by our esteemed colleague, Vis Bellica. |
wrgmr1 | 26 Feb 2015 9:25 a.m. PST |
stg Dutch: Nice find! Shows we really shouldn't worry about getting the color right! Dan Beattie: Considering that the Young Guard did not exist until 1810 and Wagram was in 1809, it would be tough to pick a color. |
Dave Jackson | 26 Feb 2015 9:57 a.m. PST |
Apostrophe Police……maybe he left out the word "uniform"…..then he's alright…… |
MajorB | 26 Feb 2015 10:40 a.m. PST |
Apostrophe Police……maybe he left out the word "uniform"…..then he's alright…… Only if he was referring to a single German … |
ataulfo | 26 Feb 2015 10:56 a.m. PST |
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Pizzagrenadier | 26 Feb 2015 11:07 a.m. PST |
There are no correct colors, only correct parameters. By the way, US uniforms weren't khaki, they were OD 3 or OD 7. Only a few pieces of kit were "khaki". |
Zargon | 26 Feb 2015 11:08 a.m. PST |
Wow, 'that' german (German?) had a lot of uniforms. See, I can play too :+) Dutch thanks and disregard the BS this is a good reminder to correct colours and correct diction. Cheers |
GROSSMAN | 26 Feb 2015 11:18 a.m. PST |
REMAIN CALM SIR! -The apostrophe police I think I have all of those colors covered. I have used about every shade of green/grey there is and still not happy. link link |
Dan Beattie | 26 Feb 2015 12:26 p.m. PST |
WRGMR1: The Young Guard was officially raised in 1809 and participated in Essling and Wagram as Curial's division. Did you really think I wanted to know what color of blue to use? |
War Artisan | 26 Feb 2015 12:32 p.m. PST |
Thank you, sgt Dutch. I have a foolproof test for color accuracy: Can you tell they're German (or French, or whatever)? Yes? Good enough. |
wrgmr1 | 26 Feb 2015 12:48 p.m. PST |
Dan Beattie. No I didn't think that at all. I sit corrected regarding YG. :) |
Mako11 | 26 Feb 2015 1:21 p.m. PST |
Clearly, the only real ones are the two right ones in the upper row, and the others are cheap, inaccurate replicas. |
138SquadronRAF | 26 Feb 2015 2:00 p.m. PST |
fünfzig Schattierungen von Feldgrau Sorry could not resist…. |
Maddaz111 | 27 Feb 2015 5:54 a.m. PST |
Yes 50 shades of field grey by sacher masoch. A story of a German soldier and his conquest of one woman. Badly written by someone who should be arrested by the apostrophe police, and tried by the high grammar court. |
Winston Smith | 27 Feb 2015 6:08 a.m. PST |
And made into a blockbuster movie. With Rutger Hauer as the Apostrophe Gestapo. |
forrester | 27 Feb 2015 6:33 a.m. PST |
When you see a photo like this, it absolves anyone from being perfect about field-grey, EVER! |
Timmo uk | 27 Feb 2015 8:04 a.m. PST |
I painted my '44 figures in a range of colours based on those above to avoid a uniform look. IIRC the earlier uniforms have more bluish green shade, like the one shown dead centre. |
tuscaloosa | 28 Feb 2015 7:02 p.m. PST |
"versus the courser blends. Thanks for the post.[…] P.S. As a badge-carrying member of the Apostrophe Police Force…" You're going to have to surrender to the Spelling Militia, I'm afraid. |
spontoon | 08 Mar 2015 3:55 p.m. PST |
@ Tuscaloosa; That's not misspelled; it's the wrong word entirely! |
ScottS | 09 Mar 2015 3:16 p.m. PST |
And, to beat my dead horse, it also doesn't show any pictures of trousers contrasting markedly with the tunic as seems to be in fashion these days. Hey, that was the fashion in 1940 as well… |
Jemima Fawr | 14 Mar 2015 10:09 a.m. PST |
An important fact to remember when painting German uniforms is that Field Grey is a sort of greyish-green, whereas Reed Green is a sort of greenish-grey. No need to thank me. |
tuscaloosa | 21 Mar 2015 9:08 p.m. PST |
I hypothesize, without any proof whatsoever, that gamers who arrive at WW2 after first having played Napoleonics get much more focused on color details of uniforms. Whereas gamers who tried WW2 as their first gaming period, or came into it from Warhammer or something else, are much less pedantic about uniform details. |