Atheling | 25 Feb 2015 12:34 p.m. PST |
Updated with Basing, Glossing and Matting Down complete:
There are many more pics on my Shooting Leave Blog plus a Sneak Peek at what will be coming up next: link Thanks for looking, Darrell. |
Harwood Hobbies | 25 Feb 2015 12:58 p.m. PST |
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bracken | 25 Feb 2015 1:39 p.m. PST |
They look superb, and the basing is nicely done |
Rhysius Cambrensis | 25 Feb 2015 1:42 p.m. PST |
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ochoin | 25 Feb 2015 3:44 p.m. PST |
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morrigan | 25 Feb 2015 3:48 p.m. PST |
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idontbelieveit | 25 Feb 2015 3:59 p.m. PST |
Now that's what I call complete! Nicely done. |
Ragbones | 25 Feb 2015 5:37 p.m. PST |
Meh, I guess they're 'alright' if you like superbly painted figures with great looking bases. The British cavalry you've given a sneak peek of on your site are terrific. I especially like the horseflesh. I've never been able to come close to something like that. Can't wait to see more. Will you be painting any Camel Corps? |
Henry Martini | 25 Feb 2015 9:02 p.m. PST |
One small niggle: that figure on the far right has a fantasy leaf-bladed sword. |
Timmo uk | 26 Feb 2015 3:23 a.m. PST |
I think your application of paint and tone is superb and I very much look forward to seeing more. A couple of things I'd consider when you add more. Although not all the Beja were the same skin tones many were nubian – the colouring of those depicted in Giles' famous paintings of the battle of Tamai and El Teb shows many of them to be very dark. Giles was a major in the army and present on the campaign. The other thing is the stripy shields. I think this style of painting began when some unknown wargamer/painter saw the famous painting of an Emir holding a small decorative shield with inlaid stripes and now it seems that all Beja had stripy shields. Essentially they were made of leather, and aren't stripy in the way that has become popular to paint wargames figures. There are plenty of images about of what these fairly simple shields look like. When you come to paint the camels: the Beja were known for their particular breed of 'white' camels, again images abound. |
Atheling | 26 Feb 2015 5:10 a.m. PST |
Thanks to all for their very encouraging words- all very much appreciated! RAGBONES:
The British cavalry you've given a sneak peek of on your site are terrific. I especially like the horseflesh. I've never been able to come close to something like that. Can't wait to see more. Will you be painting any Camel Corps? They're Mounted Infantry for El Teb. No-one does them (or at least the Perry's don't) so I did some simple conversions using Hussar mounts and Camel Corp miniatures. I had some great advice from one or two experts in the field as well as making use of Mike Snook's brilliant book Go Strong into the Desert. TIMMO UK:
I think your application of paint and tone is superb and I very much look forward to seeing more. A couple of things I'd consider when you add more. Although not all the Beja were the same skin tones many were nubian – the colouring of those depicted in Giles' famous paintings of the battle of Tamai and El Teb shows many of them to be very dark. Giles was a major in the army and present on the campaign. Yeah, I'm well informed by a number of books and one or two 'experts' in the field, especially Mike Snook's wonderful book, Go Strong into the Desert and Michael's amazing illustrations taken from first hand sources. The other thing is the stripy shields. I think this style of painting began when some unknown wargamer/painter saw the famous painting of an Emir holding a small decorative shield with inlaid stripes and now it seems that all Beja had stripy shields. Essentially they were made of leather, and aren't stripy in the way that has become popular to paint wargames figures. There are plenty of images about of what these fairly simple shields look like. Whilst I can see where you are coming from, most of their shields were not 'stripey'…. however, I have decided to paint all the shields for the Beja in this fashion after coming across this image:
As you can see it does look 'stripey'. It also makes the shields look much more interesting within a unit IMHO. When you come to paint the camels: the Beja were known for their particular breed of 'white' camels, again images abound. Thanks, I didn't know that Tim. Darrell. |
Timmo uk | 26 Feb 2015 12:46 p.m. PST |
I was very lucky – I had a friend who lived there for a year and she took zillions of photographs so I had that reference to work with. All good fun – I look forward to seeing your mass assemble. |
Atheling | 26 Feb 2015 11:05 p.m. PST |
Glad you like it my friend.Zoneofcontrol… dude! (smile) Amicalement Armand I don't know how this has happened??? Weird…. I'll put up my last again! |
Atheling | 26 Feb 2015 11:31 p.m. PST |
TIMMO UK:
I was very lucky – I had a friend who lived there for a year and she took zillions of photographs so I had that reference to work with. All good fun – I look forward to seeing your mass assemble. Lucky indeed! Would it be possible to share some of the pics please? On this forum or via e-mail? Darrell. Just Add Water Blog: link Gewalthaufen (Late 15th /Early 16th Century) Blog: gewalthaufen.blogspot.co.uk La Journee (Early 15th Century Blog): link Shooting Leave (Late Victorian Blog): allthebrave.blogspot.co.uk |
Timmo uk | 27 Feb 2015 3:30 a.m. PST |
Sorry – I don't have them any more – they were all prints not digital files. |
Atheling | 27 Feb 2015 4:01 a.m. PST |
Sorry – I don't have them any more – they were all prints not digital files. Bummer…. never mind…. there's a great resource at Durham Uni (just down the road) that I'm going to be investigating. I'm told it is *the* place to look for resources for the Sudan campaigns. Darrell. Just Add Water Blog: link Gewalthaufen (Late 15th /Early 16th Century) Blog: gewalthaufen.blogspot.co.uk La Journee (Early 15th Century Blog): link Shooting Leave (Late Victorian Blog): allthebrave.blogspot.co.uk |
Aubrey | 27 Feb 2015 4:33 a.m. PST |
Google images has lots of photos of the Beja People both contemporary and historic. I even found pictures of Timmo's White Camels. I also used Mike Snook's excellent book as a reference but did go for the dark skin tone. However, I also went for the stripey 'shields' and agree that they add to the look of the unit. As usual your figures are very well painted and I particularly like the composition. |
Atheling | 27 Feb 2015 5:27 a.m. PST |
AUBREY:
Google images has lots of photos of the Beja People both contemporary and historic. I even found pictures of Timmo's White Camels. Not when I checked earlier :>( My Google Foo must be off at present LOL :>) I also used Mike Snook's excellent book as a reference but did go for the dark skin tone. There will be some other Beja tribes represented. It will allow for some nice variation and will probably stop me going insane painting them all up! However, I also went for the stripey 'shields' and agree that they add to the look of the unit. Indeed :>) As usual your figures are very well painted and I particularly like the composition. Thankyou. It's always great to hear encouragement. Darrell. Just Add Water Blog: link Gewalthaufen (Late 15th /Early 16th Century) Blog: gewalthaufen.blogspot.co.uk La Journee (Early 15th Century Blog): link Shooting Leave (Late Victorian Blog): allthebrave.blogspot.co.uk |
Timmo uk | 27 Feb 2015 6:35 a.m. PST |
You will find good reference for Beja skin tones and the camels on the net. I think the stripy shield thing is purely a personal preference – I've painted mine to match the references I've used so although battered and marked in places there are no stripes. However, I've also painted my figures primarily to get the sense of an imposing dark mass. I wasn't concerned for the attractiveness of the paintwork or the individual figures, that's not to say they are badly painted, more that I simply aimed to make them to look as menacing as I could. I purposefully desaturated all my colours and used a very limited palette – again because that's what the photographs I had suggested. |
Volleyfire | 28 Feb 2015 12:56 p.m. PST |
Very nice figures. I haven't seen that picture of a shield before, think I'll be re-visiting my figures with a bit of dry brushing now to lighten the surface a bit in places. |
Ragbones | 28 Feb 2015 2:39 p.m. PST |
Just went back and looked at your figures again. Simply amazing. You, sir, are an artist. |
Atheling | 01 Mar 2015 11:55 p.m. PST |
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