"Iran's Guard Attacks Mock US Carrier in Drills" Topic

"Iran's Revolutionary Guard launched large-scale naval and air defense drills near a strategic Gulf waterway on Wednesday in which dozens of speedboats swarmed a replica of a U.S. aircraft carrier.

The drill, named Great Prophet 9, was held near the Strait of Hormuz, through which one fifth of the world's oil passes. Iran's regular army carried out naval drills near the strait in December.

State TV showed footage of missiles fired from the coast and the fast boats striking the mock U.S. aircraft carrier. The drills, which also included shooting down a drone and planting undersea mines, were the first to involve a replica of a U.S. carrier…"
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Now we know why they were building that mock up. Good old fashioned propaganda.

Didn't the us do some similar weapon tests against mock targets for similar saber rattling purposes?

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The Japanese found out mock ships are a little easier to destroy. Than real ships. (Not in port)

They just showed the carrier-they are never alone. Could they get through the picket ships?

Somebody's watching the Midway movie too much.

So basically if a US carrier sails alone, unarmed, minus all its aircraft and crew the Iranians can totally take it on.

Also i'm pretty sure the storming a carrier idea came from the call of duty or battlefield games.

"Didn't the us do some similar weapon tests against mock targets for similar saber rattling purposes?"

No, I believe that was just a Maytag commercial!!! Takes a licking and keeps on… (oops, wrong jingle.)

If they did manage to sink a carrier, I bet a lot Maytags will be sold in Tehran. ;-)

"So basically if a US carrier sails alone, unarmed, minus all its aircraft and crew the Iranians can totally take it on."

Using a similar comparison you are happy then that the USN can take on an enemy ship as long as it is decomissioned, defenceless, static and with the position of thetarget known to the Nth degree (and with the attackers having the luxury of several weeks to plan the shot), since that is generally the condition of the targets and exercises RIMPAC and other events that respondents here no doubt would also believe to be "propaganda")? :)

"Also i'm pretty sure the storming a carrier idea came from the call of duty or battlefield games."

Or maybe instead just about as long as carriers have existed…….

I hope the Iranians didn't lose in that scenario, since THAT would be a bit embarrassing.

Using a similar comparison you are happy then that the USN can take on an enemy ship as long as it is decomissioned, defenceless, static and with the position of thetarget known to the Nth degree (and with the attackers having the luxury of several weeks to plan the shot), since that is generally the condition of the targets and exercises RIMPAC and other events that respondents here no doubt would also believe to be "propaganda")? :)

Not sure if your serious……but sure building a mock carrier so you can attack it with dingies (and broadcast it on your national television) is just like a weapons test.

"Also i'm pretty sure the storming a carrier idea came from the call of duty or battlefield games."

Or maybe instead just about as long as carriers have existed…….

I'm not sure that is very likely, since the opportunity to storm a carrier is unlikely to come up in most cases unless it is disabled and defenceless…..so I doubt much planning has gone into the logistics of fighting your way through a carrier (especially a US sized carrier).

Has anybody in history ever stormed a carrier, has anybody in history ever even tried to storm a carrier?

I assume most plans for dealing with enemy carriers have been more in the nature of sinking or damaging them enough to take them out of action rather than boarding them.

Anyone seen the Iranian newspapers? Are they carrying photos of a US carrier being sunk by Iranian forces, perhaps? ;-)

Doesn't Iran have stealth drone submarines or something that makes carriers obsolete already.

Speaking of bizarre Iranian propaganda, they stated yesterday that two RAF transport aircraft had been shot down while carrying weapons to Daesh…

EH???!!!!

Iran or Iraq?

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Iraq's army has shot down two British planes as they were carrying weapons for the ISIL terrorists in Al-Anbar province, a senior lawmaker disclosed on Monday. "The Iraqi Parliament's National Security and Defense Committee has access to the photos of both planes that are British and have crashed while they were carrying weapons for the ISIL… We have discovered weapons made in the US, European countries and Israel from the areas liberated from ISIL's control in Al-Baqdadi region," the Al-Ahad news website quoted Head of Al-Anbar Provincial Council Khalaf Tarmouz as saying…

All statements seem to eminate from one Iraqi government statement. They claim to have photographic proof, but none found so far. Not sure we are missing any, are we?

Mind you, Iran still has great distrust in the USA:

The US claimed that it had airdropped weapons and medical aid to Kurdish fighters confronting the ISIL in Kobani, near the Turkish border in Northern Syria. The US Defense Department said that it had airdropped 28 bundles of weapons and supplies, but one of them did not make it into the hands of the Kurdish fighters. Video footage later showed that some of the weapons that the US airdropped were taken by ISIL militants.

The Iranian commander insisted that the US had the necessary intelligence about ISIL's deployment in the region and that their claims to have mistakenly airdropped weapons to them are as unlikely as they are untrue."

I read that Irish Guards.. Mad Micks indeed.

Yes, some weapons-grade WTAF there…

The source was Iranian, but talking about Iraq. It's highly doubtful that any of the original sources quoted actually existed and the whole pile of ordure was almost certainly dreamt up in Iran.

Needless to say, the RAF has not lost any aircraft and has not knowingly dropped any supplies to Daesh.

I love that quote:

"The Iranian commander insisted that the US had the necessary intelligence about ISIL's deployment in the region and that their claims to have mistakenly airdropped weapons to them are as unlikely as they are untrue."

Yeah right… Let's see the Iranians drop 28 pallets at night and assess their accuracy… They'd be lucky to hit the same country.

I thought it was quite impressive to drop 28 pallets and manage to intentionally steer just one of them to the wrong group…

…at night…

…in unfamiliar territory…

…with no intelligence…

…and with no clear borders as to who owns what area at any specific time…

Indeed.

Did the mock carrier get to shot back?

"Not sure if your serious"

Actually yes. The way this trial was executed was broadly the same as a similar trial that the USN or RN would conduct. Now I don't see anyone suggesting that the US can only engage compliant targets. And for the sake of interest its worth noting that the ASBMs – a capability that doesn't exist in the West – engaged from about 200 miles, not from "rubber dingies" (spent part of this morning analysing the video with experts in the field and they were impressed at what they saw)