"need recs for world history games" Topic
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doc mcb | 23 Feb 2015 11:54 a.m. PST |
I have a friend who is incarcerated and teaches world history to fellow inmates. He uses AH's HISTORY OF THE WORLD, and they also play AXIS AND ALLIES. But I'd be glad of other suggestions for games 1) set in our reality and 2) commercially available but 3) NOT online. Difficulty level would probably need to be high school or thereabouts. Some of the men are well educated and some are very sharp (with SOME overlap!) but many are high school only. (The prison does a very good job with the GED for any who have not completed high school.) Any recommendations will be appreciated. |
Wargamer Dave | 23 Feb 2015 12:00 p.m. PST |
This is not a history game – but I think it may be beneficial to them because it teaches strategies about resources and being tactical with how you develop your civilization – Settlers of Cataan. |
wminsing | 23 Feb 2015 12:34 p.m. PST |
Brittania and it's 'cousins' would work pretty well for various areas of ancient history. -Will |
wminsing | 23 Feb 2015 12:38 p.m. PST |
A House Divided for American Civil War; easy but shows a lot of the facets of the conflict. -Will |
Saber6 | 23 Feb 2015 12:48 p.m. PST |
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Repiqueone | 23 Feb 2015 1:12 p.m. PST |
If he's teaching world history, I would recommend "Timeline" which has several versions. Inexpensive and based on wider knowledge than just Military history. Available at Amazon. |
Parzival | 23 Feb 2015 1:44 p.m. PST |
Currently OOP but possibly still available to find is Eagle Games' Conquest of the Empire, essentially an upgraded re-release of the Milton Bradley Gamemaster Series game. In a similar vein, the original Samurai Swords (formerly Shogun) from the same series has been re-released, though I think by a different name? For two-player games, Battle Cry (Hasbro/Wotc) and its sisters Memoir '44 (Days of Wonder) and of course Command & Colors:Ancients are all terrific games and highly accessible. Risk: Godstorm, while not historical, does involve ancient civilizations and a generalized mythology based on ancient cultures and their beliefs. It would certainly be a starting point for discussion. Of course, all of these games involve conflict and implied violence as a path to victory, which might not be quite so favorable with the prison administration, if that's something that needs to be considered.
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wminsing | 23 Feb 2015 2:21 p.m. PST |
The new version of Samurai Swords is called Ikusa. -Will |
Rudysnelson | 23 Feb 2015 2:52 p.m. PST |
Since I work with the local Adult Education, several of our teachers work at local jails and prisons. Mainly we focus on either job skills or the GED program. If he is a capable teacher, he is wasting time teaching World History. He needs to focus on getting and helping a local GED instructor. Most are retired teachers and could use the help in large classes. The new GED 2014 program is very hard. So any help the inmates can get in the basics of Language-reading; science, and social studies as well as upper level math needs to be the focus of any educational program. The math would be secondary due to the complexity. Many inmates will have trouble with multiplication, fractions, decimals and percentages. Now they have to know geometry, quadratic equations, advanced algebra. Yes it is tough but in most States a GEd graduate is regarded as being at a higher level than a high school graduate. Most of these have to take 099 math to get to take college courses. In regards to social studies: 50% of the test is government/civics, 10% world History; 20% American History, 10% Geography amd the rest economics. So these may be the areas he needs to focus on. |
Rudysnelson | 23 Feb 2015 2:56 p.m. PST |
Administrative problems with board games is that most jails do not allow booklets unless the staples are removed, no sharp items or plastic like timers that can be made into sharp items; no pens or pencils which limit rules that need recording. No dice. So games are a problem. |
doc mcb | 23 Feb 2015 6:44 p.m. PST |
Rudy, this prison, though medium security, is character and faith based and has practically NO violence. They do limit some things but pencils and booklets and such are in wide use. I've seen games of AXIS AND ALLIES and D&D in use during their free periods. |
lloydthegamer | 23 Feb 2015 11:00 p.m. PST |
Doc, if a guy is already in prison there is definitely something wrong with his character and his faith, so how can those things be used to place him in a prison in the first place? |
Parzival | 26 Feb 2015 4:06 p.m. PST |
I understand Rudy's practical point of view, but I also find that teaching things like history goes a long way towards helping people understand the fundamentals of government, civics, and the like. Furthermore, if you do not understand world history, you will have a far more difficult time understanding American History, particularly when studying the underlying philosophies and structures of its founding and its governmental system. If you don't know Israel, Greece and Rome, then you can not understand why Western Civilization is what it is, nor why America is what it is. Likewise, geography subsumes into World History, and science found its birth in the philosophers of Greece, and its flowering in the scholars of the Renaissance. These things go hand-in-hand. Be that as it may, I daresay that the practical elements you refer to are likely being addressed already. There is nothing wrong, and much right, with expanding horizons beyond the necessary. |
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