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Watchful i Studio23 Feb 2015 7:03 a.m. PST

Happy Monday to all. We are proud to announce our Wave 2 product range that will accompany our 28mm Chinese Warring States / Qin Dynasty miniatures. The Fantasy portion of the range will be available in the stretch goals of our Kickstarter and we are looking forward to a successful start to this army. Over the weekend we created a Wordpress website for everyone to check out our progress on our core range as well as the concept art for our fantasy supplement. If you use Facebook I highly encourage you to Like us so you can be the first to receive our news for future products and updates. You can go to either our Facebook page or Wordpress to see our art and updates to our core product. At the end of our post on the Wordpress there is a survey asking for you advice on how we should deliver additional products in our Stretch Goals so take a moment and vote. Enjoy your week.

Joe

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McWong7323 Feb 2015 4:10 p.m. PST

Ok, I was skeptical of the fantasy stuff, but then I saw the Temple Dogs. Nice. Nicer still if you can put riders on them, or have them pulling a chariot!

Longstrider24 Feb 2015 4:50 a.m. PST

It looks good – I hope that the versatility draws in more backers rather than pushing them away. I'd really like to get to their support stuff too.

wminsing24 Feb 2015 9:15 a.m. PST

Personally I'd start the line as pure historical and move onto the fantasy stuff once the historical line was well established, but that's just my two cents.

-Will

wminsing24 Feb 2015 9:18 a.m. PST

Also are you backing off the plans for plastics? I thought the original plan was for the core infantry to be in plastic and the support stuff in metal.

-Will

Longstrider24 Feb 2015 11:05 a.m. PST

It looks like the idea is that, if the kickstarter is ix more successful, various items until then offered in metal will be moved to plastic. Presumably, this would convert various types of infantry first, and then chariots or cavalry.

I think it might be worth considering how much you guys want the plastics out, Watchful I – it seems as it stands there's not many chunky 28s covering Warring States anyway, so maybe demand is enough to get a variety of cheaper-to-produces metals funded via the KS. My own preference would be as much plastic as possible, but it might make more sense to have smaller goals so that, say, 3-4 metal units might be produced rather than 1 plastic, and that way to attract more backers by offering more options all in one range.

One possibility might to fund two plastic body sprues and head sprues, for armoured and unarmoured, and supplement those with metal/resin arm sets. There's a vast array of weapons – spear, javelin, halberd, bow, crossbow, standard pole – in two arm sets – armoured and unarmoured, and that's assuming just one pose for each weapon, though with poseable arms and heads we'll likely get enough variation to make wargames units look nice.

Basically the problem will be either a) tons of space on sprues/material costs of metal for weapons that won't get used or b) paying tooling costs for many very similar sprues with one or two different things like the Warlord Caesarian Romans (which is fine, but perhaps that's the reason their Caesarians are close to double the cost of their Hoplites and Phalangites).

I know we can all convert, but I look at the amount of extra plastic in the latest GW kits that can be configured for two rather different looking units, and it's a LOT of space that could have gone to make 5 more infantry of just one type.

However I'm sure the folks at Watchful I have thought about this; if the KS is going live in a month this stuff is probably planned out already.

Watchful i Studio26 Feb 2015 1:03 p.m. PST

Thanks for the comments guys and I appreciate the thoughts. We have considered many options and even though I have spent over 15 years in the gaming industry you still learn something new every day.

We are trying to do this project as cost efficiently as we can because even though we have no in house production we want to remain competitive with the marketplace.

Plastic is our goal and we would love to see 3-4 kits in plastic but realistically we just want to release a really nice comprehensive army range for the public to enjoy. We do have aspirations for more armies and eventually a set of rules.

Finally we have given a lot of thought to wastage as we are gamers and we know that a lot of parts get thrown out or not utilized. We have a pretty sound system to eliminate wastage in the metal components allowing customers to select from a range of options rather than paying for them all and only using some. We have a few ideas on reducing wastage for plastics but not 100% sure how that will effect the overall production cost.

Thanks again guys and we look forward to seeing you on the Kickstarter.

Joe

Longstrider26 Feb 2015 1:09 p.m. PST

Great. As I say I'm sure you've been wracking yourself trying to sort out how to deal with the issues more than us in the peanut gallery. I'm looking forward to the KS.Since John Jenkins and Newline Designs don't do 28mm Warring States anymore it'll be nice to have another option.

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