"Teutonics never fought the Mongols ?" Topic

I have been searching and searching but have not found 1 instance in wich the Teutonic order fought the Mongols. Am I wrong ?

It was thought that they made up a portion of the Polish army at Liegnitz. It seems as though a more critical look at the sources has brought that into question. Google Liegnitz you should find some info.

… but they will in my battles …

And lose in mine.

Angus painted them there, so they were there:

That's good enough for me! So, if you want them there, put them there.

Dan

The main -almost contemporary- source of information for the battle comes from a Polish 'historian' named Jan Długosz (pronounced Dwugosh). He was writing some two hundred years later and although some of his information is a little suspect, in other areas he is spot on. For example he --erroneously-- says that there were five divisions of Polish (in reality there were four) at the battle and that one of them was commanded by the ninth Grand Master of the Teutonic Knights, Poppo von Osterna. Modern research has found that Osterna didn't visit Leignitz until 1257 when he died while visiting his wife who was in a nunnery. He was buried in the town which is probably the source of the confusion. Therefore it is extremely unlikely that there were any Teutonic Knights at Liegnitz.

There was a contingent of TKs in the Lithuanian/Polish army fighting against the Golden Horde right at the end of the 14th century.
Their presence at Liegnitz/Lenica/Wahlstatt is doubtful. A small number of Hospitallers and Templars is more likely.

The funny thing is, they are always depicted (as above Casique Caribe shows)fighting the Mongols (wich they apparently didn't) but never against the Saracens in the Holy Land (which they apparently did).

Was 'visiting' a common contemporary euphemism? Cardiac arrest? If so, there might be further cause for confusion: 13th century tabloid headline: 'Von Osterna suffers attack while engaged at Leignitz'.

On my table, more than once.