Tango01 | 04 Feb 2015 10:03 p.m. PST |
"Imagine what ISIS would do if it managed to capture one of our pilots. The monsters in black no doubt would try to top the video they made of burning the Jordanian pilot alive. And there is no guarantee that one of our pilots will not fall into their hands. Yes, our pilots are better trained than are the Jordanians. And, our airplane maintenance probably is superior…" Full article here link Heaven forbid! Amicalement Armand |
Solzhenitsyn | 05 Feb 2015 5:44 a.m. PST |
Don't get captured. It will not end well, so go down swinging. |
jpattern2 | 05 Feb 2015 6:04 a.m. PST |
What Solzhenitsyn said. And Kipling, too: "When you're wounded and left on Afghanistan's plains . . ." |
Legion 4 | 05 Feb 2015 7:12 a.m. PST |
Well … based on what just happened … I think there is no further use in discussion. Save for of course the US has great SF & CSAR capabilities … |
Doctor X | 05 Feb 2015 8:28 a.m. PST |
One way or another do not get captured. |
15mm and 28mm Fanatik | 05 Feb 2015 9:12 a.m. PST |
Wait for CSAR and put your evasive skills to good use. Save the last bullet for yourself if capture is imminent. |
OldGrenadier at work | 05 Feb 2015 9:27 a.m. PST |
"…And put your pistol to your head, and go to Fiddler's Green." |
Zargon | 05 Feb 2015 9:29 a.m. PST |
Don't think the US airforce does DOT (dump on target) bombing at the moment, so unless the dude gets lost and downs on Dash territory which would be no problems if he/she does the rescue guys are very good I believe, if not and lost in country with the bloodthirstys about to pounce, a look at photos of loved ones and a round through the head would be best if CSAR fails. Blast em into the stone age don't tickle em, Cheers. |
DeltaBravo | 05 Feb 2015 11:26 a.m. PST |
"Save for of course the US has great SF & CSAR capabilities …" That'd be the same capabilities that didnt have time to rescue the Jordanian pilot when he went down, and were unable to rescue him once captured? If you believe the USAF (…), US pilots face the same risks as the coalition pilots, so I wouldn't assume that a US pilot has a better chance of being resuced than the poor Jordanian. I think by doing this, ISIS has drawn a lne under any realistic prospect of there being any coalition boots on the ground. |
Mardaddy | 05 Feb 2015 11:47 a.m. PST |
ISIS already has a 26yr old American woman captive. An aid worker captured in Syria. |
Dentatus | 05 Feb 2015 12:07 p.m. PST |
Hopefully we'll respond in a firm, judicious manner. Before they are beheaded or burned alive or sold into slavery. |
Mako11 | 05 Feb 2015 3:16 p.m. PST |
Yes, very true the CSAR are great, but having them stationed in Kuwait seems a bit daft, even to an American. A shame our Turkish "allies" apparently will not permit us to base them closer to the area of operations, especially after it was reported they were permitting us to have airbase access (I believe that report was incorrect/premature). Perhaps now, Jordan will permit us to base our CSAR forces there. I suspect the Israelis would too, if asked, though it seems we (the administration) aren't on very good speaking terms with them, so I doubt we've asked for permission to do that. Yes, as Mardaddy points out, they do have a female, American aid worker, and apparently another woman too. No doubt, ISIS has horrific plans for them as well, if they are even still alive. |
Legion 4 | 05 Feb 2015 3:57 p.m. PST |
"Save for of course the US has great SF & CSAR capabilities …"That'd be the same capabilities that didnt have time to rescue the Jordanian pilot when he went down, and were unable to rescue him once captured? We were not there … we don't know what went in with the Strike Package … Nor were we informed of any rescue attempts … and shouldn't be and violate OPSEC … Of course not every CSAR mission or POW raid is successful … |
Mako11 | 05 Feb 2015 5:11 p.m. PST |
True, but supposedly the UAE pulled out, since the CSAR wasn't available, or they felt it lacking in some way. Of course, spokespeople have fallen all over themselves trying to tell us the UAE didn't pull out of the coalition. However, not having flown a mission in the last month plus, begs the question that if they are in, what exactly are they doing to help? Of course, some can ask that same question of the American effort as well, which has been pretty tepid thus far, in terms of bombardment intensity. |
coopman | 05 Feb 2015 7:13 p.m. PST |
Let's hope and pray that no coalition pilots suffer this fate. |
Legion 4 | 06 Feb 2015 9:08 a.m. PST |
Amen coop ! As far as the UAE, first I heard they pulled out because the media posted pic of their female pilot. [But females can't drive cars in the UAE ?] Then because there was no or not enough CSAR … [The dog ate my homework … I left my homework on the bus … etc., etc.] Now the question is IMO, Jordan says they are conducting A/Strikes in both Syria and Iraq on Deash targets. But the US says no … only in Syria, because Iraq still has a functioning Gov't (?!?)… I don't know which concerns me more ? If Jordan is bombing in both countries and the US denies it … or someone atually thinks Iraq has a functioning Gov't ? |
Mardaddy | 06 Feb 2015 2:18 p.m. PST |
Amended: ISIS now claiming the American woman hostage was killed by a Jordanian air raid: link |
Legion 4 | 06 Feb 2015 2:24 p.m. PST |
Yes, been seeing that on CNN for sometime now … Some "analysts" believe, she was killed some time ago. And this is more Deash propaganda … If true, hopefully she didn't suffer like so many have at Deash's brutish hands … |