Bismarck | 31 Jan 2015 4:53 a.m. PST |
Gentlemen..Help! I am chomping on the bit to begin work on about 200 20 and 15mm figures. Wife has severe respiratory problems, so fumes and odors are a major issue. Am looking at the bottled Model Master primer to use inside the house. Can anyone give me their experiences with this item? Does it have an odor and actually work? I have read all the previous posts regarding brush on primers and just cannot justify the cost of gesso for the few figures I will be doing. One last question, KRYLON spray primer? Does it have fumes and have any of you used it in the house? For all my previous work I have used Armory primer, but sprayed outdoors. Suggestions and advice please!! As always thanks for your help! Best wishes as always to this great gaming community! Sam |
Winston Smith | 31 Jan 2015 5:52 a.m. PST |
ANY spray primer has fumes , and Krylon is no exception. |
Winston Smith | 31 Jan 2015 5:53 a.m. PST |
As for Model Master, read the label. Some may have an alcohol based carrier. (---ol) Water based Gesso is entirely water based and should give you no problems. |
Bismarck | 31 Jan 2015 5:57 a.m. PST |
thank you, John…oops…or Winston! ;-) one more question..will the Model Master work with plastics(polyethlyene) since some of the figs in the que are Pegasus plastics? thanks again. wish you a great coming year and good health! Sam |
Winston Smith | 31 Jan 2015 6:20 a.m. PST |
When I used to paint Airfix plastics, a soft polyethylene, I used Gesso. If I were priming hard plastic I would brush on Testor's at black or flat white out of the $.99 USD bottle. I am unfamiliar with Model Master. |
Fizzypickles | 31 Jan 2015 6:27 a.m. PST |
Aerosols are the devils work. Nobody listens. What paints are you going to use on them? |
Bismarck | 31 Jan 2015 6:46 a.m. PST |
Fizzypickles, I will be using a mix of craft acrylics and vallejo. the 20s are half RAFM and half Pegasus plastics USMC @ 1965. The 15s are Eureka French Indochina figs. John, the plastics are not as soft as our old Airfix. Model Master is Testor's acrylic version. |
Garryowen | 31 Jan 2015 7:12 a.m. PST |
Bismarck, this is off topic regarding your primer question, but seeing you are painting Vietnam related figures, I though you might enjoy this website, Fields of Fire Reloaded. link It is devoted to Vietnam miniature wargaming. It contains a wealth of information and entertainment in its posts. Tom |
Bismarck | 31 Jan 2015 7:30 a.m. PST |
Thanks Tom! but already there….you might recognize me as Yankee Sam! have a great weekend! Sam |
Garryowen | 31 Jan 2015 7:32 a.m. PST |
Oh, hi Yankee Sam. Sure, I know you. Tom |
Extra Crispy | 31 Jan 2015 8:04 a.m. PST |
Sam: Juts prime them with regular paint. Black, white or gray depending on your painting style. Heck, prime the Marines in faded olive drab. Once painted and left to dry overnight give them several coats of brush on sealer or take them outside and spray them. By the way why can't you spray outdoors? I have sprayed even in extreme cold with no problems. Just make sure your spray cans are kept inside, and work fast! |
Bismarck | 31 Jan 2015 9:14 a.m. PST |
Too darn cold, Mark! at least for this old man, anyway! hope you are well! |
TiberiusAugustus | 31 Jan 2015 10:00 a.m. PST |
I use gesso and highly recommend it |
ZULUPAUL | 31 Jan 2015 10:02 a.m. PST |
I prime with white craft paint, never had any problem metal or plastic. |
Fizzypickles | 31 Jan 2015 10:07 a.m. PST |
Ditto. Let the wife breathe fresh air and prime em with the paint/sealer. |
Chris Wimbrow | 31 Jan 2015 12:15 p.m. PST |
I have read all the previous posts regarding brush on primers and just cannot justify the cost of gesso for the few figures I will be doing. Cost of gesso? A quick and dirty look around the web suggests gesso can be had for about $1 USD per ounce. Vallejo paints work out to be around $5 USD per ounce. The craft paints will certainly be the cheapest portion. |
abelp01 | 31 Jan 2015 7:38 p.m. PST |
I use gesso slightly thinned and spray it on with my airbrush and my homelife is much better than before! ;) |
jeffreyw3 | 01 Feb 2015 8:24 a.m. PST |
I stopped using spray primers due to problems with humidity (living in North Carolina at the time), and after experimenting, settled on Black Gesso, slightly thinned with water. I have a six-ounce bottle I bought last year that I'm pretty sure will outlive me. :) As others have noted, you can use plain old acrylic paint to prime as well, craft paints being nice and cheap. |
Bismarck | 01 Feb 2015 10:06 a.m. PST |
Thanks a ton, Gentlemen! Found a local craft shop that had 8oz bottles of Liquitex Surface Prep rather than the gargantuan sizes carried by their local competitors. Even had a 50% discount! Saved a few bucks to use for the 2000 shades of green I will need for these! :-) Just to be sure, the gesso surface prep is the right one? again, thanks everyone! |
jeffreyw3 | 01 Feb 2015 12:07 p.m. PST |
That are it. You can do a topic search for gesso in the forums here, and get some good discussion on usage, if you haven't done so already. |