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CAG 1925 Jan 2015 1:40 p.m. PST

Can't find my freezywater water book. I have his coat of arms but not his livery. Can anyone help?

Green Tiger26 Jan 2015 3:45 a.m. PST

Don't think its listed in the book and I'm not sure they are known. It seems that liveries were not necessarily a set thing anyway. You could use some of the tinctures from his coat of arms and go blue and yellow or possibly red?

GurKhan26 Jan 2015 3:54 a.m. PST

At link one painter's gone for blue and yellow.

Andy P26 Jan 2015 5:09 a.m. PST

It seems it was red not yellow/blue.
This was the livery colours for the Earl of "Ormond"

They are mentioned at the back of the book in the gazetteer part.

CAG 1926 Jan 2015 7:18 a.m. PST

@All, Thanks for all the info. I have gone with Red.

@Andy P, do you mean in the FW book. I am going to have another look through the bookcase tonight

French Wargame Holidays26 Jan 2015 8:52 p.m. PST

I have two
from Debrett's Peerage, 1968, p.864

Gules, three covered cups or

Wiltshire Archives
The Arms borne by Butler, Earl of Wiltshire, were those of Ormond ;

or, a chief indented azure.

both are blended on Wiki, I prefer the second one and painted him as such

Last Hussar09 Mar 2015 6:52 p.m. PST

Ooo – what period is James Butler – I work with a woman who's husband is called James Butler, and I'm trying tomake all my liveries personal. Was he WotR?

MajorB10 Mar 2015 5:34 a.m. PST

what period is James Butler – Was he WotR?

Yes:
link

Executed after Towton.

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