| Tango01 | 24 Jan 2015 10:36 p.m. PST |
… State Controlled Mosul. " Kurdish forces have fired rockets into Mosul for the first time since Islamic State militants overran the northern Iraqi city last summer, Kurdish military sources said on Saturday. A Kurdish officer said 20 Grad missiles had been launched into Mosul on Friday after receiving information that Islamic State militants were gathering to meet near the city's Zuhour neighborhood. "We hit their positions," said Captain Shivan Ahmed, who belongs to the unit that fired the rockets from around 20 kilometers (12 miles) north of Mosul…"
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| coopman | 25 Jan 2015 7:26 a.m. PST |
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 Legion 4   | 25 Jan 2015 11:43 a.m. PST |
I was about to say similar … but don't want to get DH'd …  |
| cwlinsj | 25 Jan 2015 12:58 p.m. PST |
122mm rockets (Grad) are notoriously inaccurate. Firing them into a city taken hostage by a few thousand terrorists/extremists isn't the best way of fighting/killing them. |
| Lion in the Stars | 25 Jan 2015 8:21 p.m. PST |
If Grad are all you got, though, you use the arty you have. It's not like the US is providing the Kurds with our Excalibur GPS- and laser-guided shells… |
| cwlinsj | 25 Jan 2015 10:17 p.m. PST |
I don't care what they use to kill ISIS. It's dropping rockets on the 1 million population of Mosul that's the problem. Indiscriminately killing innocents isn't going to win world opinion. Look what happened in Mariupol. |
| Legion 4 | 26 Jan 2015 8:28 a.m. PST |
That is why the US and other's in the West, try to go out of our way to avoid collateral damage. But sometimes it's accidental or there are few other options. As the insurgents know to hid among non-combatants. It's right out of Mao and Che's writings … |
| EJNashIII | 26 Jan 2015 4:59 p.m. PST |
Considering how well ISIS treats the locals, if you get a bit closer look, the locals will be happy to point them out when they try to blend in. This isn't Vietnam. |
| Deadone | 26 Jan 2015 5:08 p.m. PST |
the locals will be happy to point them out when they try to blend in I suspect most locals will just want to stay out of it all. No point irritating the insurgents when they'll just come into your house at night and murder you for talking to the government. |
| COL Scott ret | 27 Jan 2015 5:01 a.m. PST |
Kurds are certainly a people group deserving of their own nation. Now I wonder what scenario you could use to game that. |
| Henry Martini | 27 Jan 2015 7:14 a.m. PST |
The Kurdish gentleman I spoke to yesterday would wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment, but as he said, in the end (as with so much in the Middle-East) it all comes down to oil. |
| Legion 4 | 27 Jan 2015 8:33 a.m. PST |
Considering how well ISIS treats the locals, if you get a bit closer look, the locals will be happy to point them out when they try to blend in. This isn't Vietnam.
Very true, but the threat of death may keep many of them silent. Regardless, it's always good to keep Mao and Che' in mind when dealing with insurgencies. Of course as we saw in Iraq, the AQ brutality against the locals by AZK and others was a tactic that proved very much not to have been in their favor. Kurds are certainly a people group deserving of their own nation. I agree, they certainly seem to be willing to fight for it. in the end (as with so much in the Middle-East) it all comes down to oil. I agree, if the Middle East had no oil or the world had no use for it. The only people who would have anything to do with the region would be archeologists and the like. And many in the region would be still be nomadic and living in tents. The House of Saud would be a big tent … |
