Silent Pool | 23 Jan 2015 9:15 a.m. PST |
…in thanking TMP post contributors for works of outstanding endeavour and for the most worthy wordy contributions to this fine old site. Often someone contributes some wargame or finely painted figure(s) that rightly excite the readers and elicits a grateful response but rarely anything from those in charge. How about a formal recognition of thanks which could ultimately add up to free membership or coupons for wargame products or a tour around the TMP factory? |
Rrobbyrobot | 23 Jan 2015 9:29 a.m. PST |
No. We share our ideas and the results of our efforts for other reasons. Besides, the Editors are supposed to edit. Further, the staff already nominate some for free supporting memberships. However, if you really feel such as you suggest should be done. Please feel free to open your wallet and make it happen… |
Winston Smith | 23 Jan 2015 9:43 a.m. PST |
No. This is not a youth soccer league where everybody gets a trophy for showing up. |
Cyrus the Great | 23 Jan 2015 9:44 a.m. PST |
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RavenscraftCybernetics | 23 Jan 2015 9:47 a.m. PST |
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Great War Ace | 23 Jan 2015 10:03 a.m. PST |
No. Words are for advancing the hobby, not an end in themselves…. |
Texas Jack | 23 Jan 2015 10:09 a.m. PST |
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Joes Shop | 23 Jan 2015 10:15 a.m. PST |
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JLA105 | 23 Jan 2015 10:25 a.m. PST |
No. This is a forum, where membership and posting are the reward. |
Doug MSC | 23 Jan 2015 10:28 a.m. PST |
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John Leahy | 23 Jan 2015 10:29 a.m. PST |
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sneakgun | 23 Jan 2015 10:51 a.m. PST |
They do give a way memberships to contributors…. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 23 Jan 2015 10:58 a.m. PST |
Particularly at Christmas, but also at other times of the year, we do give free Supporting Memberships to those Basic Members who contribute more than most. We haven't done it formally, but maybe we could design a special badge for it, something like the current "W" for Workbenchers. |
John Armatys | 23 Jan 2015 11:55 a.m. PST |
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Augustus | 23 Jan 2015 12:05 p.m. PST |
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brunet | 23 Jan 2015 12:57 p.m. PST |
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20thmaine | 23 Jan 2015 1:33 p.m. PST |
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Disco Joe | 23 Jan 2015 2:08 p.m. PST |
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raylev3 | 23 Jan 2015 2:35 p.m. PST |
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Silent Pool | 23 Jan 2015 3:24 p.m. PST |
With the replies still coming in the early indications are that it is a split 50/50 between the Yes and the No vote …stay tuned. |
Patrick Sexton | 23 Jan 2015 4:25 p.m. PST |
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Zargon | 23 Jan 2015 4:37 p.m. PST |
LOL kyoteblue, perfect reply. Cheers |
14Bore | 23 Jan 2015 7:49 p.m. PST |
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Rebelyell2006 | 23 Jan 2015 7:52 p.m. PST |
Often someone contributes some wargame or finely painted figure(s) that rightly excite the readers and elicits a grateful response but rarely anything from those in charge. Which is the way it should be. They're paid by Bill to keep the peace and do editorial/programming work. And Bill needs to work on a good advertising solution for TMP 4.0, not hand out participation ribbons. |
Doctor X | 23 Jan 2015 10:54 p.m. PST |
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Bunkermeister | 24 Jan 2015 12:19 a.m. PST |
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Silent Pool | 24 Jan 2015 4:58 a.m. PST |
YES(Tee-hee, only kidding. I'm going to wait and see how this proposal pans out before voting with the winners. Rejection sucks!) |
General Jumbo | 24 Jan 2015 7:05 a.m. PST |
21 "No"s and a fake "Yes".
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Wolfprophet | 24 Jan 2015 7:55 a.m. PST |
21 "No"s and a fake "Yes". That's pretty much the ratio for the Scottish Independence Referendum.
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axabrax | 24 Jan 2015 11:35 a.m. PST |
I don't think so. I'm guessing the OP is looking for free membership? |
sjwalker38 | 24 Jan 2015 2:31 p.m. PST |
Come on, let's be realistic – how could our editorial team be more proactive? Since joining the team, there is no evidence that they have gained any more knowledge about our (admittedly strange) hobby, or any interest in it. The suggestion that they participate more in threads, passed on by Bill has prompted no response whatsoever from them. How can they possibly thank contributors for higher than average quality contributions? They'd spend all their time thanking Tango for his posts, I assume. Bill still does 95% of the work I guess, other than processing no more than half a dozen news stories per day, in between holidays and root canal work. Suppose that's another 'no' |
Rebelyell2006 | 24 Jan 2015 2:43 p.m. PST |
Wow, I'm so glad that I printed up those complaint Bingo cards. sjwalker38 just got 5 across! |
brunet | 24 Jan 2015 3:01 p.m. PST |
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Jemima Fawr | 24 Jan 2015 11:15 p.m. PST |
I only do it for the drugs and groupies. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 24 Jan 2015 11:20 p.m. PST |
…how could our editorial team be more proactive?Since joining the team, there is no evidence that they have gained any more knowledge about our (admittedly strange) hobby, or any interest in it. The suggestion that they participate more in threads, passed on by Bill has prompted no response whatsoever from them. How can they possibly thank contributors for higher than average quality contributions? They'd spend all their time thanking Tango for his posts, I assume. Bill still does 95% of the work I guess, other than processing no more than half a dozen news stories per day, in between holidays and root canal work… It is true that much of their work does not require knowledge of our hobby, or knowledge of how to wargame in particular. Does Gwen, when she works with advertisers, need to know how to assault a fortified city? Does Dianna, when she formats a Hobby News story, need to know how to paint German paratroopers? Does Hebber, when she processes the graphics for a Hobby News story, need to know how to build a trench in 15mm? However, all of them are working at learning the hobby, at their own pace and in their own way. Julia is the most advanced, having played a few wargames now, and starting her own Flames of War army. Claire, Julia and Hebber have been learning the boardgame Risk!, which seemed a good starting point to me. The editors know that there are those, both here on TMP and elsewhere in the hobby, who do not approve of them. That perhaps makes them shy to participate here, when they know their every word will be scrutinized and belittled. Finally, I would remind you that the editors chose those who were rewarded with memberships at Christmas, and seem to have done quite a good job. (I have heard no complaints.) |
KatieL | 25 Jan 2015 4:09 a.m. PST |
So, if everyone's being so productive, why doesn't the site still not have & comply with a privacy policy as mandated by state laws? How long does it take to read the guidance on such things and build something sensible? |
Herkybird | 25 Jan 2015 10:29 a.m. PST |
If its not to late…no thanks! |
Editor in Chief Bill | 25 Jan 2015 12:33 p.m. PST |
So, if everyone's being so productive, why doesn't the site still not have & comply with a privacy policy as mandated by state laws?How long does it take to read the guidance on such things and build something sensible? Got some links? |
Elenderil | 25 Jan 2015 1:04 p.m. PST |
Very happy with the current state of affairs thank you. AKA No! |
KatieL | 25 Jan 2015 3:35 p.m. PST |
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Robert Kennedy | 25 Jan 2015 4:40 p.m. PST |
Hey Bill? How often does this not so subtle type of attack or threats on you and the site happen over the years by the same individuals? "the site still not have & comply with a privacy policy as mandated by state laws?".IIRC this site does not nor is required to follow such "laws". I believe that the question of links have been asked a few times before with none being produced or ones that seem to be interpreted are being relevant but in fact are not relevant or quite vague. I too am interested and would like to see such links with examples on how such "laws" are being broken and how they would enforced.Also how many members have left due to their "privacy" being violated that you know of or think have done so? Just interested for my own curiosity. |
Intrepide | 25 Jan 2015 5:10 p.m. PST |
Late to the parade but put me in the 'no' column. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 25 Jan 2015 8:42 p.m. PST |
Hey Bill? How often does this not so subtle type of attack or threats on you and the site happen over the years by the same individuals? "the site still not have & comply with a privacy policy as mandated by state laws?" This issue first came up in 2014, when some questioned whether it was proper for me to identify someone who had transgressed TMP rules. It turned out there was no explicit "privacy" statement in our FAQ. (There was an obsolete notice in another part of the website, which I deleted when it was brought to my attention.) IIRC this site does not nor is required to follow such "laws". I think you may be correct – see, for instance, link Though I am also unclear which jurisdiction would be relevant: my location, or the physical location of the server. I believe that the question of links have been asked a few times before with none being produced or ones that seem to be interpreted are being relevant but in fact are not relevant or quite vague. I too am interested and would like to see such links with examples on how such "laws" are being broken and how they would enforced. If New York State law applies, the only laws I have been able to find relate to the state's use of private information. Also how many members have left due to their "privacy" being violated that you know of or think have done so? Just interested for my own curiosity. None that I recall. |
Robert Kennedy | 25 Jan 2015 9:36 p.m. PST |
Thanks Bill. That site you linked is interesting. I think those who keep stating that this site is not complying should read it and see that it does not apply under any of those states listed. If there are other sites for other states I hope those links are posted too. Is there a national policy? Perhaps you should just post a generic more "conspicuous privacy policy on its Web site". I believe that should satisfy and/or silence those who keep bringing it up.If not then it's just another poor tactic. |
Tango India Mike | 26 Jan 2015 4:46 a.m. PST |
Bill, you didn't "identify someone who had transgressed the rules" you published his email address, which was given to you in confidence. That, in any book, is an abuse of trust. Now on to what I came to post. No. Oh, and as I'm gonna get banned now anyway – Winston – You, you obviously know nothing about raising kids. Sayonara |
Winston Smith | 26 Jan 2015 5:32 a.m. PST |
I raised three boys, two of them played sports. The one in the youth soccer league got a trophy his first year when they went 9-0. So did the kids whose teams went 2-7. His next year they went 0-9 and got trophies. ALL the kids I am aware of held the trophies in contempt because they knew they had no value or meaning. They grinned when they picked them up but it was really smirks. No, I know nothing about raising kids. |
KatieL | 26 Jan 2015 6:53 a.m. PST |
Apologies, it's not a state law -- it's a US law. The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) requires that websites that knowingly collect information about or target at children under the age of 13 must post a privacy policy. "my location, or the physical location of the server." Yes. Both of them. And also, in some circumstances, where you do business. You do business with EU entities, you're obliged to comply with EU data protection legislation. Yes. All the different bits of it. Yes, EU enforcement might be a problem, but unless TMP is going to gain an "over-13s only" rule, COPPA definitely applies to you in New York. " Perhaps you should just post a generic more "conspicuous privacy policy on its Web site". I believe that should satisfy and/or silence those who keep bringing it up." Yes. Posting (and COMPLYING) with such a privacy policy would be sufficient. Hence my wondering why it's been taking so long. "IIRC this site does not nor is required to follow such "laws". " I'm not sure putting the word in quotes makes laws inapplicable. Maybe you should seek legal advice before assuming they aren't? |
Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Jan 2015 6:56 a.m. PST |
Bill, you didn't "identify someone who had transgressed the rules" you published his email address, which was given to you in confidence. That, in any book, is an abuse of trust. It was a business email that was used to initiate a sock puppet account. That does not deserve privacy protection. |
christot | 26 Jan 2015 7:21 a.m. PST |
But if little johnny doesn't get a prize, and others do he'll be traumatised for life… Then perhaps I can sue TMP?? (Given the lengths this site goes to in it's policy on political correctness sometimes, I wouldn't actually be surprised if this pointless suggestion was implemented). Bill and his team have plenty of useful stuff to do already |
Editor in Chief Bill | 26 Jan 2015 7:27 a.m. PST |
The Children's Online Privacy Protection Act (COPPA) requires that websites that knowingly collect information about or target at children under the age of 13 must post a privacy policy. According to the FTC guidelines, the rule is not triggered for websites that do not collect the ages of users. |