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Don Sebastian22 Jan 2015 11:41 a.m. PST

Did the Russian generals employ any special tactical doutrine, or particular dispositions (such as the austrian who equipped their cuirassiers with back cuirasses and helmets against the turks) when facing the Ottoman armies?

138SquadronRAF23 Jan 2015 9:30 p.m. PST

Souvorov used squares at the battle of Rymnik 1789, does that count.

Sorry my library is in storage but Longworth, Philip. "The Art of Victory" (1965) is very good on the Turkish wars of the later 18thC.

von Winterfeldt24 Jan 2015 3:03 a.m. PST

they used big squares – for more go to the web site of George Nafziger there is an excellent book, of two volumes, available – translated by Mikaberizde where you will find more information about this huge campaign.

MichaelCollinsHimself24 Jan 2015 12:26 p.m. PST

Re. "The Russo-Turkish War of 1806-1812"

Yes, I second vW`s recommendation as it is a great source.

Available from George Nafziger also there is: "Tactics of the Russian Army in the Napoleonic Wars" By the Alexander and Yurii Zhmodikov. Also in two volumes; it`s well worth investing in !

Don Sebastian24 Jan 2015 12:56 p.m. PST

Thank you, guys! Did the russians follow the Austria example and enforced the use of the cuirass against the Turks?

Personal logo Der Alte Fritz Sponsoring Member of TMP26 Jan 2015 9:52 a.m. PST

I am going to guess and say that the Russians probably did not take cuirassiers with them. I have nothing to base this on, just a gut feeling. Dragoons and Cossacks, yes, because they were lighter cavalry and more suitable for the type of cavalry tactics needed versus the Turks.

Don Sebastian10 Feb 2015 6:52 p.m. PST

Guys, does anyone knows if the russians employed cuirassier regiments against the Turks? If so, would they wear extra armor?

mashrewba11 Feb 2015 2:50 a.m. PST

Am I right in saying that the Ottoman army of this period and theatre wasn't the massive cavalry host of old and consisted of mainly of Balkan troops trained in European tactics -a few well trained but most not.
Some nice looking stuff on this chaps blog
link

MichaelCollinsHimself11 Feb 2015 3:36 a.m. PST

Hussars, Dragoons and Cossacks….

Here`s the OOB for the battle of Batin 1810:

PDF link

crogge175711 Feb 2015 2:31 p.m. PST

I also second that "square concept" of fighting the Turks.
I recall reading some entertaining treats in a German contemporary book on warfare. I recall, the theatres of operations here were for most part rather remote – seen from the perspective of a European army. As a result, Russian operational movement was very slow progressing as the army was often forced to have fast amounts of supplies right with the troops. This made the army form up in most unusual giant square like formation when giving battle – with all its baggage in the centre. Any other place for the baggage was way too dangerous for it would have been seized by the many swarming Turkish light horse.

von Winterfeldt12 Feb 2015 12:11 a.m. PST

It is all in the book

Re. "The Russo-Turkish War of 1806-1812"

buy it – the two volumes are not expensive

Don Sebastian16 Feb 2015 10:33 a.m. PST

Thank you all very much!

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