"Iran and Hezbollah are planning 'imminent' joint invasion..." Topic

… of Israel's northern Galilee region according to 'high level intelligence'

"Senior Iranian and Hezbollah figures killed in an airstrike in Syria this weekend were likely planning an 'imminent' attack on Israel, security sources have claimed.
Six Iranian army chiefs died alongside five Hezbollah militants after an Israeli helicopter fired rockets at a convoy in the Golan Heights region on Sunday.
Among those killed was Iranian General Mohammed Allahdadi, as well as commander Abu Ali Tabatabai, who is known to have worked with both Hezbollah and Iran.
Today Major General Eyal Ben Reuven, a former deputy head in the Israeli Defense Forces, accused the senior military figures of meeting to plot an attack on Israel.
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Armand

Nonsense; why on earth would Hezbollah & Iran be planning an invasion of Israel when theyre already heavily committed in syria and in Iraq against ISIL?
Israel is goading hezbollah exactly because it knows theres virtually no chance ofretaliation.
Its the usual see through israeli propaganda.

Lebanese Hezbollah just arrested a senior member that the Izzies had turned. The Iranians just assassinated Prosecutor Alberto Nisman in Buenos Aires. Nasrullah the other day made a ranting speech about the next war with Israel. And now the Izzies have blasted a carload of Iranian and Hezbo high command who were nosing around the Golan. It's a shooting war, just no one is saying so.

The Izzies don't believe at all in the current US/EU nuclear and economic negotiations with the Mullahs. I suppose the Izzies think the Persians and the Hezbos are over-stretched in al-Shams and probably weakened by $50 USD/barrel oil. They're ready to have another war with Hezbollah and maybe the Islamic Republic too, sooner than later.

"The Iranians just assassinated Prosecutor Alberto Nisman in Buenos Aires."

That is FAR from established.

Facts ??? Facts ???

Even if you accepted this premise, how would Iran maintain any kind of supply lines through Iraq and Syria without putting themselves at immense risk? They'd have to deal with Iraqis, ISIL, the Syrian government (though admittedly, they would probably acquiesce), the Syrian rebels and who knows what else (including coalition air forces and a hostile Jordan) just to make this 'invasion.' Even if this was a real plan, they'd invade Galilee and…then what?

Signs point to 'improbable.'

That is FAR from established.

You're cute when you play dumb.

I think Iran has been planning an invasion of Israel for 40+ years, executing that plan is where they fall very short.

Rabbit

And I believe there are israeli elections due soon..

Also worth pointing out they were in Syrian territory at the time they were murdered.

Just don't think it is going happen for a number of reasons …

A terror strike, some Lone Wolf attacks, of course.

"Invasion" has a specific meaning, and Hezbollah & Iran's capabilities do not fall within that definition.

Besides, Isreal would absolutely LOVE to catch Hezbollah and Iranian RGs out in the open.

Anyone take into account the Iranian General killed by Israel?

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Armand

Also worth pointing out they were in Syrian territory at the time they were murdered.

The term the professionals use is 'assassinated'. Try to appreciate the artistry.

The late Imad Mughnieh was the Hezbollah operative responsible for the 1992 and 1994 Buenos Aires bombings. Killing his son Jihad Mughnieh along with a carload of Iranian generals was perfect blood vengeance for the Nisman assassination.

("…FAR from established." Ghawd, I'm in stitches.)

Be sure that the Persians appreciate the poetry of it, if you do not.

It's not over. Expect more booms going off as Iranian sleeper cells activate. Stay alert.

I have.

Iran's presence and arming of Hezbollah is well-known and only denied by the delusional.

Since Isreal managed to kill some high ranking people, they will have to respond, just so their followers won't lose heart. Traditional attacks will happen, perhaps even a successful "snatch" of IDF soldiers.

No invasion though. As I wrote, Isreal would LOVE to catch their enemies out in the open.

As I wrote, Isreal would LOVE to catch their enemies out in the open.

And not even the most fanatical members of the Revolutionary Guard are *that* delusional.

Let them try and invade Israel. They will be wiped out.

No one has invaded Israel since 1973 but there has been plenty traffic in the other direction.Iran is not the middle easts premier rogue state Israel is. Iran is fighting Isis in Syria and Iraq, they have had a good go at the Taliban in the recent past, why on earth would anyone encourage diverting them?

Speaking of delusional…

Sounds like more BS from Netanyahu. Not content with using the tragedy in France for electoral advantage, he's scaremongering.

Hezbollah and Iran have, frankly, more important things to do right now.

"Also worth pointing out they were in Syrian territory at the time they were murdered."
Hemm! Your one of 'those' ain't cha?

It's just a poorly crafted excuse to off a few generals against Israel's main enemy, nothing more and nothing less.

"Nonsense; why on earth would Hezbollah & Iran be planning an invasion of Israel when theyre already heavily committed in syria and in Iraq against ISIL?".

Death cult – they want their great Mahdi to return. Look at the list for signs of the imam's impending return ("true Muslim believers are trying to make that happen":

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Because they can, and for the same reason they and their allies are active all over the region, e.g. in Egypt; the Sinai; Yemen (which they've essentially just taken over); Iraq, which they essentially control and is why the Sunni ISIS fighters are drawn there to oppose them and the current government; etc., etc.

They've also got plans for Saudi Arabia, and all those little countries adjoining it too.

Zippy,

Please present the evidence.

Personally I think that the Argentine government nobbled him and had far more interest in doing so than the Iranians (who frankly, couldn't give a about Argentine internal politics), but I've absolutely ZERO proof of that fact.

To assassinate someone inside a locked room and make it look like a suicide also suggests FAR more competence than either Iran or Argentina usually presents in its operations.

I'm also not enough of a boorish prick to call someone 'dumb' for presenting conspiracy theory as fact.

I really doubt Iran-Hezbollah are planning anything in Israel. Both have their hands full in Syria. Attacking Israel would just jeopardise their increasingly tenuous position in Syria even more (Syrian army is running out of steam).

Israel originally claimed killing of Iranian general was an accident.

I think the current Israeli government is out of control. Their actions against Iran are jeopardising any potential for a resolution between US and Iran – the US has already requested that the Israelis cease anti-Iranian activities. The settlement building is also out of control as well. Basically Israel is pandering to right wing types and orthodox Jews.

I don't think current Israeli actions are conducive to the current war in Syria-Iraq. Every destroyed Syrian weapon caches and every Israeli strike on Syrian-aligned forces is strengthening the position of Islamic State.

No wonder there's conspiracy theories floating around the Israel has supported Islamic State just like they did Hamas many years ago.

Is this serious? Invading Israel?

Please present the evidence…boorish prick…

I love it when your eyes flash fire like that. Whisper more endearments to me.

Iran is known to have sleeper cells world-wide, ready to activate and carry out bombings and other operations. Actions in the past year or so have included bombings and assassinations in Bulgaria, India and Thailand, not all successful. They hit Buenos Aires in '92 and '94, and undoubtedly still have agents in town.

Everyone knows Kirchner is corrupt and no one cares very much. I doubt she would take the risk of murdering a prominent public figure just to cover up a garden variety conspiracy, she would be more likely to brazen it out. "Oh, that could be anybody's ass in that tape."

The Mullahs, on the other hand, are known to be vindictive and homicidal.

The little locked room mystery is coming unraveled as we speak. The maintenance man says the back door of the building was actually unlocked. They got a print out of a maintenance corridor that connects with Nisman's apartment.

The Argentine cops are working very hard to maintain the mystery, at least until the perps can get out of town.

So just guesses then.

So just guesses then.

You don't put much effort into your refutations, do you? Laaazy girl.

Want more evidence? There was no gunshot residue on Nisman's hand. The Argentine cops say that's because it was such a little round, just a .22, it didn't leave any residue. Nonsense. A .22 is a particularly dirty round, and if you shoot one you're going to get burnt powder on your hand. Nisman didn't fire the shot that killed him. The gun was planted.

I must apologize, though, for getting my chronology backwards and likewise my conclusion.

After re-reading the news, it seems the Israelis blew up the car on Sunday morning. Usually I hear about these things right away, so I supposed it had happened Tuesday or Wednesday. I wonder why the story was so slow to break?

Nisman woke up dead Monday morning in the western hemisphere, more than 24 hours after Mughnieh was killed on the Golan. So it's more likely that Nisman's death was payback for Mughnieh's kid and the Iranian generals than the other way around. It had nothing to do with covering up for Kirchner, it was a revenge murder, which is why it was done so blatantly, much to Kirchner's embarrassment.

My respects to the Mullahs' sense of poetics. Probably too, Buenos Aires is one of their more competent cells.

Well, there was that little Iranian assassination plot we foiled here in the USA a while back, but of course I have no direct evidence of that either (though the US government does, since they informed us about it via the nightly news), and I'm sure it's just coincidental to the Argentine, Turkish, and other assassination plots planned by, or actually conducted by Iran.

So then what were those guys up to? Isn't the fighting going on some distance away from the border now? And the article says nothing about an invasion. It talks about an incursion or raid… Something well within their capabilities. It looks like they were up to no good and got clobbered for it.

"the middle easts premier rogue state Israel is"

You can't be serious. You are kidding, right?

Anyone attempting an incursion of Israel must have a freaking death wish.

While the Israelis have reached an understanding with the Egyptians regarding hot pursuit of insurgents/smugglers (the two border patrols probably share radio frequencies/codes just to have some help running those rats to ground), has there been a SINGLE incident along the Lebanese or Syrian border where someone has crossed the Israeli border and shot up the place?

Hezbollah has been raiding into Isreal since 2000 when they ended their occupation of So. Lebanon and Hezbollah took over the border. Since then, raiding into Isreal to snatch IDF soldiers has been a major activity of Hezbollah and has been bloody for both sides, even leading to a full-blown conflict in 2006. Israel lost that war, btw.

Israel is capable of defending against armies, but guarding against incursion by small teams of commandos on a nightly basis is much more difficult.

With Iran also wanting vengeance, Isreal must prepare for strikes anywhere in the world.

Kidnapping, or kidnappings, perhaps.

I seem to recall the Israelis getting one of their people back in exchange for 1,000+ Palestinian criminals/murderers freed.

That's a pretty attractive exchange rate, which is sure to create more attempted kidnappings.

Even Kirchner has given up on the suicide story:

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You got some 'splainin' to do, Lucy!

Oh well, the perps are safe back home by now.

None so blind as those who refuse to see.

Israel is the only Middle Eastern country illegally occupying land that doesn't belong to it.

It's the only one bombing other sovereign states.

It has a track record of killing civilians in large numbers.

It has, last year, killed more journalists than the Islamist in Paris.

So yes, calling it a rogue state is not 'crazy'.

Israel is the only Middle Eastern country illegally occupying land that doesn't belong to it.

Turkey is in North Cyprus, Daesh is all over al-Shams, who owns Kurdistan anyway?

It's the only one bombing other sovereign states.

Using airplanes. Iran and others can only afford chump suicide bombers.

It has a track record of killing civilians in large numbers.

Daesh and the Syrian government have both far exceeded Israel.

It has, last year, killed more journalists than the Islamist in Paris.

But not more than the Islamists all over the world, especially in al-Shams.

So yes, calling it a rogue state is not 'crazy'.

None. So. Blind.

OK, I'll give you Cyprus… maybe. Daesh aren't a country so don't count.

Under international law, no-one is illegally occupying any bit of Kurdistan.

I didn't state Israel was unique in killing lots of civilian, merely noted they have zero compunction about doing so.

And how is the fact Aq have killed more journalists than Israel remotely relevant?

The USA and UK don't find it necessary to kill any.

None so blind indeed.

The Argentine coroner has published his report ALREADY?!

Nope. Thought not. Just idle rumour and speculation.

None so blind as those who drink meths and try to make sense of the 'voices'.

Say you are going to destroy Isreal so often and now fake anguish when they take out a couple of theirs alongside the actual targets,,,

,,,bad karma???

Regardless of all this polarized and even biased talk about Israel, Iran, etc., etc. … An invasion of Israel by anybody at this point pretty much out of reach, in terms of success.

Besides, Isreal would absolutely LOVE to catch Hezbollah and Iranian RGs out in the open.

Indeed, but Israel's enemies have learned generally that is not a good idea. Eventhough in 2006, they did give the IDF a bloody nose. But Israel is still there … nothing has changed … Plus as noted Deash is a more important problem for both Hezbollah and the Persians, in the short run … From a logistics standpoint, how will Iran invade Israel ? Landing in large numbers in Syria, and advancing South, may be a way ? Can't think of any other avenue of approach ? May also have a problem going thru Iraq and/or Jordan, en masse too, I'm very sure …

Legion – indeed, Hezbollah and Iran can't invade Israel right now even if they wanted to.

This is electioneering.

Bangor, there are so many fallacies in your statements, it's not even worth trying to correct them.

Always funny to see this personal war of Israel against Iran. But it is true, they are seeking to get atomic weapon which may prevent at midterm the capacity of Israel to bomb whoever they want in the area without fear of retaliation.

Israel prefer Sunni extremist to Shia (like the US), or at least try to play each one against the other.

Shia Islam is as a matter of fact less extreme than the Sunni version. Just look at the status of women in Iran and Saudi Arabia, in Iran they can vote, drive and go wherever they like, and even get elected try that in the US best friend state.
It is not Shia who are looking for a global Jihad as jihad is "seen as a lesser priority" in Shia theology and "armed activism" by Shia being "limited to a person's immediate geography.
It is also interesting to see reference to the idea that Shia are looking for the apocalypse by all mean. Shia Islam is no more or less looking for the apocalypse than the other revealed religions. The articles linked above are so biased comparing the antichrist to the Mahdi (Islam had its own version of it: Al-Dajjal), no mentioning other major signs before the Mahdi return (like the destruction of the Mecca) etc. that you can see that they have been written as basic propaganda to infilled fear in the mind of the reader. Iran with atomic weapon = end of the world.

Btw Ahmadinejad is no more the president of Iran…

As mentioned before Iran and the Hezbollah have bigger issue than Israel currently. They are in the middle of a huge religion war, which is ragging from Lebanon, Yemen, Syria, and Iraq to Pakistan. It seems that this basic fact is not understood by a lot of people, and especially in US where all Muslim are seen as equal. A striking example is the Homeland show where you can see Al-Qaeda guys being hosted by Iran, almost as likely as a member of the Orange Order taking shelter in a catholic neighborhood.

Israel has its own internal political agenda behind the depiction of Iran as their own great Satan. I think that Western nations should better focus on their own problem with Sunni extremist and have a more pragmatic approach.

Legion – indeed, Hezbollah and Iran can't invade Israel right now even if they wanted to.

This is electioneering.

Regardless … again from a soldier's POV, how would they get there in any number to be effective ? I don't think they could unless Iraq and/or Jordan lets them ? Could the Persians even land enough forces in Syria with all that is going on to even get any where near the forces to cross the border into Israel ? I'm saying no … and probably never. Too many factions, nations, etc. involved … This is not like in '48, '56, '67 or '73 …

Legion – see, you're letting good sense get in the way of a scare story.

Hezbollah don't have th forces to invade Israel. Iran physically can't get there as there's ISIS in the way.

And no, Jordan wouldn't let them cross and has sufficient armed forces (not to mention close military ties with the UK) to enforce their point of view.

This whole story is one opf the wackier ones I've heard in a while.

I understand and know all that and agree … Regardless of politics it's tactically not feasible. For all those reasons you and I both mentioned, and more … And from a tactical standpoint, I'd figure if Hezbollah and Iran by some implausible reason decided to invade. If they could get to the border at all. Hezollah would have to boot strap on all of the Persian's assets. To be of any tactical use in the offensive. But again, it's all academic … As Iraq, Jordan and Deash among others would physically be in the way … Not to mention the IDF once they go anywhere near the border.

Whereas Jordan has been exceptionally astute in keeping out of the regions' wars for a long while… I'd be interested to see how they'd do if trouble came their way.

I suspect they might well surprise the 'Arabs are lousy soldiers' crowd…

The Jordanians were one of the few Arab Armies in the region that gave the IDF a run for their money. In all the conflicts they participated in. '48 and '67 in particular …