"Dynamic(pushing) Hoplites??" Topic
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ExiledSpartan | 21 Jan 2015 10:39 a.m. PST |
Hey guys, new to the site and collecting/painting figs. As of now, while I'm learning I'm not worried about basing or the number of figures, just on cool and realistic looking figures. My question is-in 28mm or really any scale, are there hoplites(not phalangites) that are in a pushing pose? From everything I've seen most sets of hoplites could just be spearmen, and do not look to be in a phalanx at all, just fighting with spears. I would like to create as realistic looking phalanx as possible with whats out there. Mainly 28mm, but other sizes would be OK as well. Thanks in advance. |
wargame insomniac | 21 Jan 2015 1:50 p.m. PST |
Would some of Victrix latest Hoplites work for you as hard plastic 28mm. The earlier four box sets featured common bodies but different helmets – most of these were in standing at ease pose. But IIRC the newer unarmoured Hoplites share body with Peltasts and are more dynamic. |
Tarantella | 21 Jan 2015 8:34 p.m. PST |
Thinking about this one begins to appreciate the compromises and decision making that goes into the process. The Victrix Rome range with the the left hand fixed and held away from the body, the fairly neutral stance of the lower body and the 'ball and socket' connection for the shield allows a good deal of variation. The problems set for a hoplite pushing stance are for the left arm to be slightly away from the body, the left hand to be close to the inside rim of the shield and for that inside shield rim to be capable of resting on the shoulder. The lower body cant be in a neutral 'at ease' stance for this and solving the problems would possibly require a main body in separate standing, walking and pushing poses. |
MajorB | 22 Jan 2015 4:16 a.m. PST |
For a better understanding of how hoplites fought, you really need to read this paper by Goldsworthy: PDF link Having read it, you might want to change your views on the need for a "pushing pose". |
paul liddle | 22 Jan 2015 5:23 a.m. PST |
Good link MajorB, a very interesting article. |
leidang | 22 Jan 2015 1:30 p.m. PST |
The only thing I have seen close to this concept is the Baueda 15mm Viking shieldwall figs. He id a nice line of figures where the poses allow the figures to be packed in tight with overlapping shields and with the group in totality looking like a shield wall. Great figs. I'd like to see something similar for hoplites in 15mm myself. But I don't think there is anything out there off the shelf. |
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