parksd70 | 14 Jan 2015 6:19 p.m. PST |
Hey, Does anyone have any good sources, as well as suggestions on Vallejo colors, for Prussian jager uniforms? Interested in regular, schutzen, volunteer, etc. Thanks! |
Camcleod | 14 Jan 2015 7:39 p.m. PST |
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parksd70 | 15 Jan 2015 4:10 a.m. PST |
Thank you much, that is very helpful. Now, I'm not a reader or speaker of French, but looking under the Prussian page, they have listed "Infanterie de Ligne," which I'm assuming is line/Musketeer, and they have listed "Infanterie Legere," which I'm assuming would be light, or equivalent to Jager? Is that correct? Thanks! |
Camcleod | 15 Jan 2015 9:03 a.m. PST |
parksd70 The Prussian Line Infantry are organized in Regiments numbered 1 to 31 in 1815. Each Regt. had three Batallions – 2 Musketeer & 1 Fusilier. The 3rd Fusilier Bns. acted as the Regtl. Light Infantry. All these are on the "Infanterie de Ligne" section of the site. Click on the "1er bataillon 2ème bataillon 3ème bataillon" buttons for the uniform of each Bn. Also included are the Regtl. commmand in most units. There was also a number of Guard units and the first 11 Line Regts. also had a Grenadier component who were all still in Prussia or the frontier during 1815. There was also a number of Jager Bns. . Only one the Silesian Jager Bn. was with the Army at Waterloo, listed under "Infanterie Legere". Note that many of the Line Regts. had Jager Companies attached. These are usually shown on the Fusilier Bn. plates. They also acted as a Light Inf. component. Hope this helps. Cliff |
parksd70 | 15 Jan 2015 9:24 a.m. PST |
Thank you Cliff! I was having a tough time making sense of the plates, but it's starting to get clearer now. |
4th Cuirassier | 20 Jan 2015 4:06 a.m. PST |
The volunteer jager companies usually, IIRC, were semi-/ unofficially attached to parent regiments and in general adopted the regimental distinctions of that parent unit. So (eg) a West Prussian regiment would have had a blue coat with red cuffs and turnbacks and a crimson collar. The attached jager company have had a green jacket with black cuffs and turnbacks and a crimson collar. Usual caveats about exceptions and supply issues apply. |
Oliver Schmidt | 21 Jan 2015 2:39 a.m. PST |
So (eg) a West Prussian regiment would have had a blue coat with red cuffs and turnbacks and a crimson collar. The attached jager company have had a green jacket with black cuffs and turnbacks and a crimson collar. Where did you find this info ? |
4th Cuirassier | 29 Jan 2015 1:46 p.m. PST |
The caption to plate 75 in Haythornthwaite's 'Uniforms of Waterloo': "Generally speaking, the volunteer Jager companies wore dark green jackets with the facing colours of the regiments to which they were attached." In the same caption he cites Silesian jagers as having black collars and cuffs piped. This is of course inconsistent with the rule of thumb about the facings of the parent regiment, because the Silesian colour was yellow but the jager pictured wears a uniform without any yellow. Possibly the Silesians were independent to the extent of not following the provincial facing colour rules. Hence my usual caveats. |
Camcleod | 29 Jan 2015 5:58 p.m. PST |
Yes, but Haythornthwaite is talking about the 'Silesian Jager Bn.' who were a separate unit. They had no 'parent' Regt. link |
Musketier | 31 Jan 2015 4:50 a.m. PST |
The reformed Prussian infantry arm had cuffs and collars in provincial colour and the shoulder straps denoting each regiment's rank within the province (white, red, yellow and light blue) Any volunteer Jäger company ( not every regiment had one) would have worn the same colour scheme as its parent regiment, but on green coatees. In addition, there existed one battalion each of East Prussian Jäger and Silesian Schützen. These were regular units, not self-equiped volunteers, and had their own uniforms, green coatees respectively faced red and black with red piping. |
Oliver Schmidt | 01 Feb 2015 4:18 p.m. PST |
The Freiwillige Jäger of the battalions of Jäger and Schützen had their parent batallion's uniform, but with white shoulder straps for distinction. |
Musketier | 16 Feb 2015 8:52 a.m. PST |
Belated thanks, Oliver – so much still to learn. I actually hadn't realised the autonomous Jäger and Schützen battalions had volunteer detachments as well… |