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Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2015 5:54 p.m. PST

How did folks in the Commonwealth armies of WW2 (or now) pronounce the 'cwt' part of their truck ratings?

C.W.T.?

Centum Weight?

something else?

Personally, I prefer going all Welsh and pronouncing it 'coot' ^,^

Jemima Fawr11 Jan 2015 5:57 p.m. PST

Hundredweight. :)

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Jan 2015 6:05 p.m. PST

Damn, beaten to it. Yep, hundredweight.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP11 Jan 2015 6:08 p.m. PST

Oh, and to avoid any confusion – a British hundredweight is 112 pounds…. ;-)

Winston Smith11 Jan 2015 6:09 p.m. PST

I'm a Yank and even I call it "hundredweight".

Jemima Fawr11 Jan 2015 6:09 p.m. PST

Yup, that avoids confusion… er…

Chokidar11 Jan 2015 6:12 p.m. PST

Perfectly logical no?

Clays Russians11 Jan 2015 7:14 p.m. PST

Een Russia, dah is beeg trukk ohr not so beeg trukk.

Personal logo Mserafin Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2015 7:19 p.m. PST

Oh, and to avoid any confusion – a British hundredweight is 112 pounds….

Oh, of course it is.

Garand11 Jan 2015 8:21 p.m. PST

Is that sort of like the "Sidkafizzes?" :)

Damon.

Personal logo ochoin Supporting Member of TMP11 Jan 2015 8:58 p.m. PST

link

I'll bet most of us aren't quite perfect in our pronunciation of all the words on this list.

IanKHemm11 Jan 2015 10:43 p.m. PST

I prefer the Welsh option (although 'coot' doesn't quite get it right).

nsolomon9911 Jan 2015 11:07 p.m. PST

In "Astraya" we pronounce it "unndredwate".

plutarch 6412 Jan 2015 3:38 a.m. PST

Go and have a quick look at caernarfon castle. Lovely…

Rabbit 312 Jan 2015 3:55 a.m. PST

It actually makes sense if you have a public school education!
C (as in the roman numeral for 100) and wt (short for weight).

parrskool12 Jan 2015 4:20 a.m. PST

How many "pecks" or "bushels" in a cwt ?

Hampshire Hog12 Jan 2015 5:02 a.m. PST

Pecks and bushels are a measure of dry goods by volume not weight.

parrskool12 Jan 2015 7:10 a.m. PST

I was being ironic.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Jan 2015 7:12 a.m. PST

You've got to be careful employing sarcasm and irony around many Brits – we don't tend to get them…. ;-)

Clays Russians12 Jan 2015 8:44 a.m. PST

An American and an Australian walk into a bar with english men, someone tells a joke, everyone laughs but the Englishman…….until the english men get it. Bwah hahaha

Martin Rapier12 Jan 2015 8:52 a.m. PST

"It actually makes sense if you have a public school education! C (as in the roman numeral for 100) and wt (short for weight)."

It also makes sense if you are old enough to have had a state school education where they taught you Latin.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Jan 2015 9:13 a.m. PST


An American and an Australian walk into a bar with english men, someone tells a joke, everyone laughs but the Englishman…….until the english men get it.

irony
[ahy-ruh-nee, ahy-er-]

noun, plural ironies.
1. a man from Kentucky making a joke about how the English are slow on the uptake…. ;-)

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2015 9:16 a.m. PST

Well, I have studied Latin, and alas am over-educated enough to know that cwt is the abbreviation for centum weight. So, in true British fashion, it's spelled 'centum' but pronounced 'hundred'.
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Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP12 Jan 2015 9:17 a.m. PST

So, in true British fashion, it's spelled 'centum' but pronounced 'hundred'.

Precisely – we like to keep things simple. ;-) In all fairness, I believe you guys share the abbreviation "lb" for pound….

Jemima Fawr12 Jan 2015 9:28 a.m. PST

I've always preferred to pronounce it "Throat-Wobbler-Mangrove".

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2015 10:56 a.m. PST
OldGrenadier at work12 Jan 2015 11:57 a.m. PST

I believe the proper pronounciation is "throat warbler mangrove."

Dave Jackson Supporting Member of TMP12 Jan 2015 1:12 p.m. PST

One more time round the pole everyone….

YouTube link

Jemima Fawr12 Jan 2015 1:22 p.m. PST

I just had a piece of ghoti that was good enough for Jehovah…

John Secker12 Jan 2015 4:11 p.m. PST

It's our language so we'll pronounce it how we like. If it was easy anyone could do it, and then who would we have to feel superior to? It's tough getting over the loss of an empire – I bet the later Romans spent all their time sneering at how the barbarians pronounced Latin.

spontoon12 Jan 2015 4:52 p.m. PST

When I'm in a hurry I pronounce it " Sea-Wait". Or 8 stones.

poiter5012 Jan 2015 8:09 p.m. PST

Boy, spontoon, you must have a cluster?!

I had an Aussie State School education, did not study Latin and still understood the question, does that count?

Dobber13 Jan 2015 10:23 a.m. PST

I'm guessing this is the same reasoning behind why the US 100 dollar bill is called a "C note"? I used to think it was because it was either marked with a C for the series identifier or the serial number started with a C, but the one in my pocket is technically an "F note"… now I am curious…

Supercilius Maximus14 Jan 2015 12:28 a.m. PST

I thought it was because they all had traces of cocaine on them.

uglyfatbloke14 Jan 2015 3:11 a.m. PST

Surely it's pronounced 'roughly 50 kilos'? to avoid discussions about a 'long hundred'?

thomalley14 Jan 2015 12:11 p.m. PST

In US state = public. An elementary or secondary school that charges tuition is a Private school.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP14 Jan 2015 1:44 p.m. PST

Well, if it was a 'short hundred', then you would also have to have discussions about it only being about 7 1/7 stones. And that would confuse everyone.

General Jumbo14 Jan 2015 3:40 p.m. PST

How many spuds in a cwt sack?

spontoon14 Jan 2015 5:05 p.m. PST

How many firkins in a hogshead?

Last Hussar14 Jan 2015 6:21 p.m. PST

None, they are different chains.

Adam name not long enough15 Jan 2015 5:26 p.m. PST

Thomally,

The same is nearly true in the UK. Only some private/independent schools are public schools. Wikipedia links this to public not religious entry, but it is more likely linked to the publishing of results before required by law. Something the Headmasters' Conference Schools have done for some time – membership of which is now seen as a key distinction between independent and public schools.

As to pronunciation – they rarely had more than one type so it would be 'lorry'…just like complicatedly named rifles become 'the rifle'.

Jemima Fawr16 Jan 2015 8:34 a.m. PST

Spontoon,

LH's excellent reply aside, there are 6 Firkins (9 gallons) per Hogshead (54 gallons). Firkins were dead easy to handle, but Hogsheads were a job for forklifts or shire-horses…

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP16 Jan 2015 10:15 a.m. PST

Adam – actually it'd be the truck – in WW2 British parlance, little ones (ie. those measured in hundredweight) were trucks, while lorries were x tonners.

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2015 12:29 p.m. PST

Yes, also like "Lieutenant" pronounced "LEF-tenant". I never understood that even though I was one once.


I think for the same reason that your trains have 'buffy cars' and your elite troops wear 'berries'. Above all, one must pronounce French words in ways that could never possilbly sound like you might be speaking French!

deephorse17 Jan 2015 12:40 p.m. PST

You've been watching too much Dick van Dyke, haven't you?

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Jan 2015 1:35 p.m. PST

Apparently so – this Englishman has always had buffay cars, and in the cadets wore a berray.

Jemima Fawr17 Jan 2015 4:24 p.m. PST

Elite troops indeed: The Airborne Tactical Commandos.

Personal logo Doms Decals Sponsoring Member of TMP17 Jan 2015 4:30 p.m. PST

Even worse – I was a sea cadet. If you need any limpet mines attaching, I have the skills. Probably wouldn't fit in the canoe now though…. ;-)

Personal logo miniMo Supporting Member of TMP17 Jan 2015 8:53 p.m. PST

Long ago when I was on the train from London to Edinburgh, the announcement definitely came over the speaker: "This is the god speaking, the buffy car is now open." Didn't sound like Dick van Dyke, but who knows who the mysterious god of the train is!

Jemima Fawr18 Jan 2015 5:20 a.m. PST

Dom,

You say that now! It's rather late to 'come out'! You'd let me go all this time thinking that we were friends… I'd booked the flowers, booked the reception, told my mum…

Mini,

Ah, that's because they only employ ill-bred oiks to work on the trains. They send the better class of gentlemen joining the railway to be signalmen.

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