"Heavy Gear Blitz - Damage (did I miss something?)" Topic
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| SCAdian | 09 Jan 2015 3:14 p.m. PST |
I'm actually looking at the download for HG Blitz and something just isn't making much sense… the following table is on page 13:
Damage vs. Armor Effect
Dam < Armor No effect
Dam > or = Armor 1 boxes of damage
Dam > or = 2x Armor 2 boxes of damage
Dam > or = 3x Armor 3 boxes of damage
Dam > or = 4x Armor 4 boxes of damage
Exceeds Overkill Value Unit is destroyed Uhmm… okay. Isn't the Overkill Value of a Gear = 3x Base Armor? What's the deal with the "Dam > or = 4x Armor" listing or am I missing a something here? |
Random Die Roll  | 09 Jan 2015 4:01 p.m. PST |
Unless there has been a rules update---each gear has an armor value and an overkill value---check a different mech and view that not all have an overkill value of x3 |
| Gear Pilot | 09 Jan 2015 4:04 p.m. PST |
Right. Some models have 1 or 2 "sturdy" boxes – gears with field armor, tanks, etc. |
| SCAdian | 09 Jan 2015 5:03 p.m. PST |
Random,
Could you please point me to a gear that doesn't have an overkill value of x3? Let's work through this…
A Hunter has armor 15 and Sturdy, Light, Heavy and Critical boxes. A hit of 24 damage is 2 damage boxes. A hit of 48 points would be Dam > or = 3x Armor and 3 boxes crossed off, BUT it is also greater than the overkill, and it is just destroyed. I can't seem to find on any of the stats in the Quickstart rules where it says that any gear or strider has an overkill rating that is > or = 3x its Armor |
| SCAdian | 09 Jan 2015 5:30 p.m. PST |
Correction: A Gear or Strider's Overkill rating IS 3x it's armor. Irregardless of the armor number (15 for Hunter, 25 for Mammoth) every time you are going to have a damage score that is > 3x it's armor, whatever that armor rating is, it will be overkilled. |
| Grumpy Monkey | 09 Jan 2015 7:36 p.m. PST |
Just so you know, these are the old rule. The new rules are up for free at Wargames Vault, and are much cleaner. |
| Sargonarhes | 10 Jan 2015 7:31 a.m. PST |
The rules seem pretty clear to me. A sturdy box ignores the first damaging hit and the model suffers no penalties from a light, heavy or critical damage. But a 3x damage still kills the target. A sturdy box only saves from the damage penalties. |
| SCAdian | 10 Jan 2015 9:39 a.m. PST |
Grumpy Monkey: Thank you. These rules are slightly different than the supposed current quickstart rules. The big difference occurs on page 18 of DP9-9997 Field Manual Revised: To recalculate the Overkill value
when a Sturdy box of damage is added simply take the base armor value and multiply it by the total number of boxes of damage the model has. No model may ever have more than five damage boxes. This is the info that was not in the quickstart and was needed. |
| SCAdian | 10 Jan 2015 9:40 a.m. PST |
Thank you everyone for helping. |
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