Pizzagrenadier | 06 Jan 2015 4:04 p.m. PST |
So besides the Emperor's finest squaring off against each other, what forces have you been using to play Warhammer 30k, if any? I assume the Orks are always good for a throw down, seeing as how they have been mankind's most prolific enemies since he began exploring the stars. But who else? The Necrons were slumbering until after the Heresy if I am not mistaken, and the Tyranids had not gotten to the galaxy yet except as the genestealers forming cults in secret, and since the marines hadn't fled to the eye of terror to become chaos raiders yet (or fully formed), who does that leave? Just rebel worlds and governors? Eldar? Just curious, and looking for some ideas for battles from the Great Crusade/Horus Hersey period besides just Marines in older variants of armor and different organizations. I ask because the new Solar Auxilia models look pretty interesting and offer a glimpse into a period in the fluff with a very different aesthetic that I'm thinking of exploring in miniature. Orks would seem pretty easy to use as is, but I wonder how you would "backdate" them before they had as much human contact. Same as Eldar, which as an empire in decline might still be more powerful than they were later… Exodites? Other forces of chaos? Thoughts? |
emckinney | 06 Jan 2015 5:43 p.m. PST |
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Pizzagrenadier | 06 Jan 2015 6:40 p.m. PST |
Purge the mutant! Burn the heretic! (Hmmmm now what minis to use…) |
Pictors Studio | 06 Jan 2015 7:23 p.m. PST |
If you can get your hands on them the Gwar figures make excellent mutants. They also have some good ones in the Judge Dread line. Also, for smaller games, Genestealers hybrid armies would be good opponents. |
Pizzagrenadier | 06 Jan 2015 8:01 p.m. PST |
Oh cool, thanks Pictors. I'll take a look at those. I mean, I'm pretty much sold…it's GWAR. I didn't think of the Judge Dred line. Edit: these make cool mutant/infected/heretics as well. link Or their Ferals line in general. |
Pictors Studio | 06 Jan 2015 8:39 p.m. PST |
GW Beastmen of various sorts are also good for mutants, mostly because you can so easily convert the plastic with actual GW plastic parts. |
Ivan DBA | 06 Jan 2015 9:34 p.m. PST |
Actually, any non-GW aliens you can find are perfect for the Great Crusade. The galaxy was a much more diverse place then, with "myriad" alien races across space. The darker side of the crusade is that the Imperials exterminated most of these now long-forgotten aliens. One of the cool things about the novels is several of them give you a brief glimpse of some of these aliens, which no longer exist in the 40k time period. Another alternative is non-GW sci fi humans of almost any sort. As with the aliens, the scattered human outposts that survived Old Night were an eclectic, diverse mix, without the common technology and weapons that pervade humanity in 40k. So if you want to play a scenario based on the Marines bringing an unwilling human world into the Imperium, anything goes for the figures you use. Finally, there are mentions of archaic human regiments, predating the Imperium, and perhaps being as old as the Dark Age of technology, that were still around at the start of the Crusade (and joined the Emperor if they were smart). One consisted of genetically enhanced troops, but more in the vein of enhanced, yet still normal humans, rather than being inhuman giants like the Marines. So again, there is great scope to branch out and use non-GW figures while still remaining firmly within the GW universe. |
Pizzagrenadier | 06 Jan 2015 9:56 p.m. PST |
I've been scouring the net for ideas since you guys posted. Lots of ideas flowing now. Ivan: good points about aliens. It leaves room for all kinds of models to be used. I'm thinking fishmen all the way to amorphous blobs. As far as humans, I'm thinking of using the Kolony militia and Ferals I already have from Pig Iron for that, maybe with some weapon swaps to connect it to the 40k tech universe and some visual consistency. I came across these Warmachine minis for the Cephalyx that would make a cool concept army of dark Mechanicus (with a touch of Slaanesh). Pretty much unaltered they are damn cool for 40k.
He would make a brute of a dreadnought. Maybe add a long range weapon for one of the arms. Pictors: Good point about beastmen too. The plastics make it easy enough for that conversion. I always loved the abhumans in 40k. Keep the ideas coming, and links if you got 'em. |
Pizzagrenadier | 06 Jan 2015 10:06 p.m. PST |
Oh, also these two would make a good force of Adeptus Mechanicus Skiitari and Nurgle cultists. link link |
Pictors Studio | 06 Jan 2015 10:27 p.m. PST |
If you want aliens you might want to look at the Combined Army for Infinity. The new Morats would make especially good forces in 30K with their mix of PA types and close combat weapons. |
darthfozzywig | 07 Jan 2015 9:44 a.m. PST |
The first couple of Horus Heresy novels have some pre-Imperial human opponents. As noted above, you can go nuts with them, giving them advanced weaponry, weird technology, different tactics/organization, etc. There's no limit there. |
Pizzagrenadier | 07 Jan 2015 11:37 a.m. PST |
Pictors: thanks, I had never given the Infinity range much of a look. Some real potential with those for some high tech/low number opponents. I really should pick up some of the novels. |
49mountain | 07 Jan 2015 12:08 p.m. PST |
What do Imperial Guard (ancient terminology) figures look like for 30k? |
Pizzagrenadier | 07 Jan 2015 3:31 p.m. PST |
The Solar Auxilia from Forgeworld gives an idea of what 30k human troops look like. From what I understand, the Auxilia are elite troops in carapce type armor that have been enhanced but not to the extent of Marines. The Imperial Army troops might look like something similar or like Cadians used to (or even the original flak jacket Imperial Army metals or earliest plastic IG). So it's kind of hard to say since they haven't been depicted yet in the 30k Forgeworld stuff. |