"Verneuil 1424: The Second Agincourt - The Battle of..." Topic

… the Three Kingdoms, by Richard Wadge.

"In August, 1424, the armies of England, Scotland, and France met in the open fields outside the walls of Verneuil in a battle that would decide the future of the English conquests in France. The hero king Henry V had been dead for two years, and the French felt that this was their chance to avenge their startling defeat at Agincourt, and recover the lands that Henry had won from them. Despite its importance, the battle of Verneuil is largely overlooked in accounts of the Hundred Years War, and this book is the first proper account of the battle and its significance. It is also one of the first books to outline the important part the Scots played in the wars in France in the years between the two great battles of Agincourt and Verneuil."

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Anyone has read this book?
If the answer is yes, comments please?

Thanks in advance for your comments.

Amicalement
Armand

It hasn't been released yet.

Ooh, can't wait to get this. There has been some good early 15th century books coming out lately not about a crisp October day in 1415.

Chris

Interesting find. I wasn't aware that there are many contemporary accounts of the battle or armies, so will be interesting how a whole book is composed….perhaps a lot on the background etc??

Armand

As PKay Inc points out it is not published yet being at least 6 months away. The author – Richard Wadge has written two other books on Medieval Warfare concentrating on the role of archers – the are Arrowstorm (archers in the 100 Years War) and Archery in Medieval England (subtitled who were the bowmen of Crecy). I have Arrowstorm and it is an interesting and informative read so based on that I assume that his forthcoming book on Verneuil will be worth a read.

I haven't studied original sources for Verneuil, but I understand that it is fairly well covered. Not as copiously as Agincourt, but some really informative eyewitness accounts exist. Enguerrand Monstrelet was at both Agincourt and Verneuil (or at least took his details from those who were there). Also Jehan Waurin fought in both battles, but he had little to say about the battle of Verneuil. I believe it was Waurin who said Verneuil was a more "nobly" fought field than Agincourt….

Many thanks for your guidance my friends!

I read bad the data of the book (June 2014 instead of June 2015)

Amicalement
Armand

Waurin actually gives a fairly detailed account of Verneuil. Mostretlet's may be derivative.

Michael Jones has proposed an alternative version based on some Norman sources (they were serving in Bedford's army as "false french") and conjecture.

Battle could use a modern analysis. Sources OK.

TomT

Tom T

Interesting comments. I have not seen Michael K Jones' paper on Verneuil but have been a touch wary of some of his conjectures after his Bosworth book. I agree that a modern analysis of Verneuil is to be welcomed and based on the author's previous book 'Arrowsmith' I have high hopes of this one.

Incidentally the book appears to have been published in the uK back in February of this year so I shall soon be able to tell whether it was worth the wait!

Thomas:

If you've got a copy of Hardy& Stickland's the Great Warbow they have a summary of Jones theory. I too am cautious about Jones' ideas which often drift into historical fiction – but his version has become the new "standard version".

Look forward to the book – just finished a DBA 3.0 scenrio for the new Great Battles in DBA book.

TomT

Tom T

I have the Great Warbow – just need to find it. Thanks for the hint re:Jones' version. I have just received 'Wadge's 'Verneuil' and I am very impressed.

I am intrigued by the 'Great Battles in DBA' book that you mention can you give more information about it?