| C Y Lingus | 03 Feb 2005 1:06 a.m. PST |
Well, the title already sums it up: finally the late 19th century dutch colonial troops are immortalised in pewter by means of Eureka's 100 club. Several orders are already in, so we (the group of people initialising this, we are not affiliated with Eureka) hope to get the mini's in production soon. |
| Area23 | 03 Feb 2005 1:09 a.m. PST |
In the Netherlands this would be not done! interessant. :) |
| Porthos | 03 Feb 2005 2:07 a.m. PST |
Area 23: it IS done in The Netherlands ! Join us ! Regards - Hartelijke groeten, Luc. |
Dr Mathias  | 03 Feb 2005 8:07 a.m. PST |
What did the Dutch colonial troops do? Who did they fight? Just curious, if I am going to buy some... |
| Doc Ord | 03 Feb 2005 8:25 a.m. PST |
I wonder if I could use some to fight my Moros. |
| Grinning Norm | 03 Feb 2005 8:52 a.m. PST |
They fought mainly locals in the East Indies who weren't too happy being subjected to Dutch rule. Pretty much the same kind of wars most other colonial power's colonial troops were fighting. |
| Porthos | 03 Feb 2005 9:34 a.m. PST |
Some websites with information: the first two are in English.
All offered by Lettow4beck, by the way. link
link
link (in Dutch, but with some pictures)
link (pictures, also of other periods) |
 Bobgnar  | 03 Feb 2005 1:46 p.m. PST |
What is the link to the Eureka site for these figs? |
| Dr Mathias | 03 Feb 2005 2:04 p.m. PST |
I wasn't aware that the Dutch had any 19th-early 20th century conquests. Man, it looks like almost everyone (European/American anyway) had a slice of the colonial pie. Luxembourg withstanding (that I know of). |
 Extra Crispy  | 03 Feb 2005 5:16 p.m. PST |
Luxembourg did have that long-distance war with Grand Fenwick around aught-eight, didn't they? |
| C Y Lingus | 04 Feb 2005 4:02 a.m. PST |
@Bob666: Eureka waits for production until there are orders for at least 100 figs. Up to that time no photo's therefore. @mathias: the dutch colonial empire was quite large indeed. In the course of the 19th century the African colonies and trade missions were traded with the english for more influence in the East-Indies. The South African colony was taken by the Brits and in an earlier stage the North-American colonies were traded for South-American colonies. |
| mdriscoll | 04 Feb 2005 6:58 a.m. PST |
The Dutch also controlled most of what is Malaysia today unp until the early 1940's. This is a great site for gamers interested in the Dutch colonial forces and early WWII in genaral.
link |
| Rotorvator | 04 Feb 2005 7:29 a.m. PST |
If Eureka is doing dutch colonial mini's, are they going to do their opponents as well? Or do these already exist in miniature? |
| C Y Lingus | 04 Feb 2005 12:57 p.m. PST |
You could try the Old Glory Moros for the early Atjeh War. Later in the war, the 'natives' were better armed, even with repeater rifles. |
 chicklewis | 04 Feb 2005 5:29 p.m. PST |
Fascinating subject. I did as much "research" as I could traveling through Sumatra, Java, Bali, Irian Jaya, Ambon, Sulawesi, and Borneo in '77, but nobody there seemed to know ANYTHING about the subject. I know that Greg Blake who is Cannon Fodder miniatures, has researched these guys extensively. Greg's "day job" is as an historian. He sent me some really amazing photos of groups of Dutch colonial troops standing on PILES of bodies of dissidents and waving swords and rifles. The conflict on Bali was extremely one-sided. When the pre-existing Balinese noble families realized that the Dutch had taken away all of their power they revolted. When the colonial troops got close the nobles, men and women both, wrapped themselves in burial shrouds and marched slowly, en-masse, into the muzzles of the Dutch rifles. An entire ruling class was wiped out in a single generation. On Sumatra the fighting was much more varied, and lasted much longer. The "insurgents" we heard about interfering with Tsunami relief efforts last month on Sumatra are the descendants of the same groups which resisited the Dutch for 150 years. Nobody has ever, afaik, written these wars up in English in a single volume. Long overdue, and I can't think of anyone better to do it than Greg Blake. He writes extremely well, and being a wargamer, includes all the right information. Chick |
| C Y Lingus | 05 Feb 2005 5:30 a.m. PST |
The standard book about the Atjeh war is written by Paul van 't Veer. IIRC it's also translated in english. The picture you are referring to, cropped up in the dutch press in the early 20th century and together with some pamphlets, books and parliamental pressure the brutal war was put to an end. It's extensively quoted in one of the links of Luc Berlage, in professor Bakker's article. ( link ) The Atjeh Wars didn't last 150 years, it started in 1863 and ended with the Japanese invasion of Indonesia in 1942. |
| marco56 | 06 Jun 2018 6:40 p.m. PST |
I guess these were never made?
Mark |
| deflatermouse | 07 Jun 2018 2:35 a.m. PST |
There's been a very helpful fellow posting a lot of stuff about the Dutch colonial wars and forces in Achji on Facebook.
I was looking at doing them in 15mm using subs for the Dutch. Ghurkas and Yeoman with slouch hats. |
