Tango01 | 18 Dec 2014 11:18 p.m. PST |
"A day after the Peshawar attack in which 162 people were killed, the government, the army and the intelligence services are under pressure to take on various armed groups inside the country. For years those groups were allegedly tolerated, even defended. But what can Pakistan do to deal with the homegrown "militancy"?…" See here link Amicalement Armand |
Mako11 | 19 Dec 2014 1:07 a.m. PST |
Perhaps they'll finally give up Mullah Omar, and some of the others. |
Legion 4 | 19 Dec 2014 8:08 a.m. PST |
Looks like on saw on CNN, the Pak Army went on an offensive. It's payback time … If they do kill the perps, then the same argument that every terrorist you kill becomes recruitment bait Then is the short term you kill more … Guys like the Talis, AQ, Daish, etc., don't appear to want to talk peace … Unless you do all that they want … which for any normal person is not an option … IMO … Oh … |
Ron W DuBray | 19 Dec 2014 9:15 a.m. PST |
well they attacked and killed 77 of the talibon today and stated that they will keep doing it. |
Cyrus the Great | 19 Dec 2014 9:41 a.m. PST |
The ISI should be questioned. Some of them know where they are hiding! |
Bangorstu | 19 Dec 2014 10:34 a.m. PST |
I could be wrong, but the Pakistani military has a long history of dealing with the Taliban exceptionally competently. It's just the political instability in the country hampers their efforts. If let off the leash, then they can possibly deal with the problem, but it requires them to stop supporting the Afghan Taliban and jsut getting stuck in. If they do that, could be a game changer for Afghanistan also. |
troopwo | 19 Dec 2014 11:42 a.m. PST |
So long as the ISI sent them to Kashmir or Afghanistan it was ok, but now that they've come home,,,??? |
Lion in the Stars | 19 Dec 2014 1:32 p.m. PST |
I'm pretty sure that the attack on the Army school has turned into the Pashtu equivalent of "What they have done is between them and God. I'm just here to arrange the meeting." I'm under the impression that the Pakistani military has successfully established itself as a "tribe" in the mind of those serving. This was an attack on the "Tribe", and will be answered with blood. Lots and lots of blood. The problem with Pakistan are the Tribal Areas. The old Northwest Frontier. There basically isn't any governmental control over those areas, beyond the reach of Army artillery. |
darthfozzywig | 19 Dec 2014 2:05 p.m. PST |
Pakistani Army vs ISI throw-down! Then is the short term you kill more Seriously. There's always an element that can be bought off or will just find a new career when it gets hot. For the rest, you really do have to kill them. It ain't a great world, but it's the one we have. (Until we take Alpha Centauri) |
Legion 4 | 19 Dec 2014 3:15 p.m. PST |
Have not seen much of those yet darth … but yes for the hard core types killing them is the only option. And yes, I do have to believe the Paks Army is capable but as of yet has not dealt the killing blows to rid the region of these types … It's their backyard … |
Mako11 | 19 Dec 2014 4:01 p.m. PST |
Yes Bangor, you are right, they "deal" with them, though I suspect your definition of that and mine differ considerably. Mine means they negotiate and sympathize with them way too much. Perhaps it is time to try killing them, instead of negotiating, since you can't really "deal" with barbarians who kill women, children, and other civilized people, effectively. Taking them out is the only way. |
Toaster | 19 Dec 2014 9:48 p.m. PST |
Actually the Pakistan military may already be dealing with them very well, this attack has some of the hallmarks of a desperation move. It could be that the Taliban upped the ante in the hope of scaring the military into backing off, now that its failed they may find themselves in a real corner. Robert |
Legion 4 | 19 Dec 2014 9:50 p.m. PST |
And all they did was really off the Pak Army … Taliban, it's time to die … |
latto6plus2 | 20 Dec 2014 10:20 a.m. PST |
I'm not optimistic. There's a lot of crossover between these groups. Some of them are Pakistani proxies in Kashmir & elsewhere. This might prompt other terrorists to disassociate themselves or it might prompt them to prove themselves as ruthless. Look whats happened in the past when the government tried to close some of the madrassas…lot of Pakistanis seem to be pretty ambivalent about the Taliban. Maybe this atrocity might change things but I won't be holding my breath. |
Legion 4 | 21 Dec 2014 11:08 a.m. PST |
I agree … seems like some of these groups, just try to out-do each other lately when it comes to barbarism, etc. |
Bangorstu | 21 Dec 2014 11:28 a.m. PST |
Has to be noted the reason given for the attack in the first place is that the Pakistani Army had been handing out a fair bit of arse-kicking lately. I doubt this incident will induce the Pakistanis to stop doing it… |
Lion in the Stars | 21 Dec 2014 11:55 a.m. PST |
How do you say, "My name is Inigo Montoya. You killed my son, prepare to die" in Pashtu? |