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Tango0114 Dec 2014 9:46 p.m. PST

…Alternate Continent.

"What if the Black Plague had killed off almost all Europeans? Then the Reconquista never happens. Spain and Portugal don't kickstart Europe's colonization of other continents. And this is what Africa might have looked like.

The map – upside down, to skew our traditional eurocentric point of view – shows an Africa dominated by Islamic states, and native kingdoms and federations. All have at least some basis in history, linguistics or ethnography. None of their borders is concurrent with any of the straight lines imposed on the continent by European powers, during the 1884-85 Berlin Conference and in the subsequent Scramble for Africa. By 1914, Europeans controlled 90% of Africa's land mass. Only the Abyssinian Empire (modern-day Ethiopia) and Liberia (founded in 1847 as a haven for freed African-American slaves) remained independent…"

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Amicalement
Armand

Klebert L Hall15 Dec 2014 7:20 a.m. PST

The map merely shows an Africa not externally colonized. All of the internal colonization still went on.

It's also probably too Balkanized, there was plenty of historical warfare among those states and their progenitors.
-Kle.

Tango0115 Dec 2014 10:54 a.m. PST

Well, they mention that the map is without any European guy.

Amicalement
Armand

mashrewba15 Dec 2014 2:00 p.m. PST

Did think of matching my Ancient German horde against my breech loader armed Askaris.
"Germans Sir – thousands of 'em.."

nvdoyle16 Dec 2014 11:05 a.m. PST

Interesting idea – this is 'my period'…

A Black Death bad enough to wipe out more than the generally accepted 35-50% of Europe would have lain waste to the Muslim countries as well – they were hardly immune to the plague(s), and accompanying disruption. But, that set aside, the virtual depopulation of Europe by the Black Death would have left the doors wide open for Turkish conquest from the southeast. There's no Poles left to come to the defense of Vienna. There's not even a Vienna left. Europe is a graveyard, and assuming that Yersina pestis burned itself out before the Turks came knocking, everything is ripe for settlement.

The easily available coal and iron would have given the Muslims some advantages over their neighbors, but the developing 'scientific' mindset of the European universities is gone. By the middle of the 14th century, there's no-one else that is going to do it. The Sunni Muslims had wiped out the promising Shia universities in Northern Africa a hundred-plus years beforehand, and the lights of learning were going out across the Dar al Islam. There was no incentive, no philosophical drive (at least for the Sunnis of the time) to continue with such things.

49mountain16 Dec 2014 1:22 p.m. PST

I can't get the links to work on this computer. Does the Southern part of Africa contain a Zulu Empire?

mad monkey 116 Dec 2014 8:47 p.m. PST

A medium sized one. More like a kingdom in the Natal region.

Tango0116 Dec 2014 11:20 p.m. PST

Quite interesting nvdoyle!!

Amicalement
Armand

colonneh13712 Apr 2015 12:23 p.m. PST

THIS! needs to be over with all of the Imagination stuff!
8-O WOW!!

Smokey Roan13 Apr 2015 4:56 p.m. PST

No reconquista means no Americans, and no more of my US units that habitually find themselves in Africa for TSATF.

They shoot +2 better than regulars, and always melee at +1 :)

(always fighting on the side of righteousness, of course)_

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