ACW Gamer | 11 Dec 2014 4:42 p.m. PST |
I just received khurasan Type 59 to back up my modern NK troops. Is standard 'commie' green my only option here? Or have the NK begun to camo their tanks? Searches on google usually result in pictures of tanks on parade. |
Cold Steel | 11 Dec 2014 5:29 p.m. PST |
I have never seen an NK tank painted in camo, even along the DMZ. The NorKs don't normally paint camo on any vehicles except for parades. They do put lots of brush and branches on them for training films. They also cover tanks with rice straw matting. That makes them pretty easy to spot when they move. The NorKs do claim their paint will defeat our radar because it is specially blended to absorb 95% of radio waves. |
HistoryPhD | 11 Dec 2014 5:38 p.m. PST |
I'm sure that rice matting will absorb 95% of our tank shells and ATGMs too |
Weasel | 11 Dec 2014 6:00 p.m. PST |
I'll echo that I don't think I've ever seen camouflage painting on photo's. Feel free to stick some flock on them though. |
ACW Gamer | 11 Dec 2014 6:45 p.m. PST |
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TNE2300 | 12 Dec 2014 11:44 a.m. PST |
"I have never seen an NK tank painted in camo" could it be they are that well painted? ;) could be they do not use camo during 'peacetime' deliberately to make the vehicles easier to see sort of like a 'show of force' but will use camo if things 'heat up' so you could paint them in camo and no one can say you are wrong unless they do start rolling for real and aren't camo but then we will have bigger things to worry about
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Cold Steel | 12 Dec 2014 12:20 p.m. PST |
TNE, our thermal sights spotted tanks at 3-4 miles away, sometimes further. No amount of paint will change the heat signature of a tank when the ambient temperature is below freezing. We could even spot them hidden behind berms and other obstructions. With a TTS, you can see the heat signature above the vehicle and intervening obstruction. Most of the NorK tanks are kept in underground shelters and hollowed out mountains. Except for posting along the Z, they are only brought out for training or elite units in parades. Yes, it is possible they could be repainted before an attack, but that is just speculation. A NorK camo training manual was recently smuggled out. It makes no mention of paint, but stresses use of vegetation. |
Lion in the Stars | 12 Dec 2014 1:52 p.m. PST |
I remember a WW2-vintage US analysis that a solid color was better for moving objects, as the human eye would pick out the pattern as a whole moving. IIRC, that same analysis is what lead to the wavy top line to most of the gun shields. |
tuscaloosa | 12 Dec 2014 2:53 p.m. PST |
"A NorK camo training manual was recently smuggled out. It makes no mention of paint, but stresses use of vegetation." Source? |
Cold Steel | 12 Dec 2014 3:13 p.m. PST |
Here is the press release. The text is not on line (yet). link |
khurasanminiatures | 14 Dec 2014 8:22 a.m. PST |
Hope you enjoy the model ACW gamer. By the way the most numerous NK tank is the T-55. There are also roughly as many T-62 as there are T-55. The two locally modified tanks are in smaller numbers. It's not impossible that their primary purpose is propaganda -- to create the impression that they are modernising the tank fleet. For instance some NK tanks prominently shown in parades have modifications which appear to be sheet metal. |