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SurfingMoose08 Dec 2014 6:02 p.m. PST

Hi,

I'd like to create a white enamel filter as a fade. I've tried the oil method but have been unhappy with the results (FYI 15mm armor and guns). I was thinking of creating a ready to use filter to achieve this effect.

What would the ratio between thinner and enamel paint be?

Thanks

McWong7308 Dec 2014 11:44 p.m. PST

Have you checked Ak Interactive or the Ammo from Mig ranges? They have a range of enamel weathering products including winter ones.

MajorB09 Dec 2014 3:09 a.m. PST

What's an enamel filter?

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Dec 2014 3:27 a.m. PST

Sounds like the equivalent of a glaze or wash to me.

SurfingMoose09 Dec 2014 6:54 a.m. PST

A filter changes the tone of the paint. It is generally applied before a wash. It is more diluted than wash. I guess I really do not need to explain what an enamel paint is.

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SurfingMoose09 Dec 2014 7:06 a.m. PST

McWong73,

Neither has a white filter but they do have filters for white, which is grey. Also checked out Wilder. They do have quite the selection of washes.

FYI and bit off topic. I will not buy any AK (this includes the whole Vallejo line since they own AK now) or Mig products. The way they treated Mig J in my opinion speaks values about them as people. I've always believed the way you do business speaks volumes about you as a person. (rant over)

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Dec 2014 9:10 a.m. PST

It is what I (and possibly a lot of other painters) would call a glaze.

I can't agree with the description of a wash given in your link. My washes range in intensity and are not all darker or more intense than the glazes I apply, neither are they applied over a gloss surface most of the time.

I do think some people forget that these techniques have been around since paint was invented and that they have been used in many different media and circumstances long before we started using them on models.

MajorB09 Dec 2014 9:37 a.m. PST

It is what I (and possibly a lot of other painters) would call a glaze.

Yes, I've heard of a glaze, but never heard it called a filter before.

SurfingMoose09 Dec 2014 9:52 a.m. PST

Ok some call it a glaze and others a filter. Since I'm a fanboy of Mig Jimenez and a few others, I'll call it a filter. But thanks for the clarification.

My original question still stands. Does anyone know what the ratio between paint and thinner might be to create a filter?

GildasFacit Sponsoring Member of TMP09 Dec 2014 1:59 p.m. PST

Can't help there I'm afraid, I gave up using enamels many, many years ago.

Fizzypickles10 Dec 2014 10:42 a.m. PST

What effect are you actually trying to achieve? Perhaps if you give us an idea of how you are hoping to use it?

SurfingMoose10 Dec 2014 3:58 p.m. PST

As I stated in my post.

"I'd like to create a white enamel filter as a fade. I've tried the oil method but have been unhappy with the results (FYI 15mm armor and guns."

Fizzypickles13 Dec 2014 7:56 a.m. PST

When you say 'fade' I have to assume you are talking about desaturation of colour? If that is the effect you are after you will not achieve it with a white filter or glaze. In fact you will not achieve it by using white at all. You need to find the complimentary colour of the colour you wish to 'fade' or find it's chromatic greyscale tone.

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