Winston Smith | 05 Dec 2014 12:23 p.m. PST |
I would think that if it takes three years for a Poll to be put up for a vote that any results would be pointless. A lot of people in the pre poll discussion are zzzzz members, haven't been heard from in months or years. Why not stick to more current ones? You will never get caught up, of that is the intent, if you only do two a week. So, let me be a pain in the ass and ask what happened to my suggestion for a Victorian Colonial Board? BTW I ran this earlier today but the dreaded lock file nonsense put Irvin the twilight zone. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 05 Dec 2014 12:27 p.m. PST |
Is it fair to let others cut to the front of the line? |
Fried Flintstone | 05 Dec 2014 12:50 p.m. PST |
Bill Any chance you could comment on how a brand new, unknown Napoleonics rule set gets a board without a poll? Your house, your rules, etc – just wonder if you would mind explaining the process so we understand it for the future. Thanks |
Porthos | 05 Dec 2014 12:51 p.m. PST |
This is a rhetoric question, Bill. Of course not. Perhaps an indication of the number of requests in the line, and the time need to respond to each request (a rough estimation, of course) or perhaps an indication of the time needed for the creation of (in this case) a Victorian Colonial Board would have been nice. That John and I have fought over an item in which my point I am sure he did not understand does not mean that I cannot support him in this case. |
20thmaine | 05 Dec 2014 1:13 p.m. PST |
I like that the polls are running (at last… ) |
Rebelyell2006 | 05 Dec 2014 1:13 p.m. PST |
Is it fair to let others cut to the front of the line? If they left the line a few years ago, are they entitled to return to the spots they left? |
John Leahy | 05 Dec 2014 1:19 p.m. PST |
John……err I mean Winston is 100% correct. |
sjwalker38 | 05 Dec 2014 1:20 p.m. PST |
When was the need for a 'war of 1812' board first raised and then polled? |
Editor in Chief Bill | 05 Dec 2014 2:08 p.m. PST |
Any chance you could comment on how a brand new, unknown Napoleonics rule set gets a board without a poll?Your house, your rules, etc just wonder if you would mind explaining the process so we understand it for the future. I think I already did, on that discussion. |
sjwalker38 | 05 Dec 2014 3:35 p.m. PST |
Sorry Bill, no you didn't. I can't remember a board being set up without a prior poll, especially not one where the publisher/author is likely to gain financially from the free publicity he receives for a virtually unknown game. It's a very different situation from the recent decisions to add a 'War of 1812' board, and the apparent lack of interest in setting up a Colonials board – and if boards can be 'bought' by authors/publishers sets a new and interesting precedent for the future. So how did this board come about? I don't care if the author paid to have it set up but it's not unreasonable for the membership to know if that's the case (and maybe obligatory to state the fact, if what Uncle Groucho says about US law) |
leadweight | 05 Dec 2014 3:58 p.m. PST |
I also believe you haven't answer why Imperial Eagle had its own board. Have you taken money from the writer of the rules in exchange for promotion and a specific board for the rules no one has heard of? |
Texas Jack | 05 Dec 2014 4:37 p.m. PST |
I still donīt see how the founding of this offending board is any of our business. Like I said before, we are not shareholders, Bill owes us no explanation. The board exists, and those who are not interested can turn it off. There is no need for a Spanish inquisition. |
Slappy | 05 Dec 2014 5:07 p.m. PST |
Not wanting to be a shill – But Bill's house Bill's rules. Frankly we have all been acting like shareholders for a while. |
Oh Bugger | 05 Dec 2014 5:21 p.m. PST |
Some folk are paying members and some are paying advertisers that is the cash end of the TMP business model. Non paying members contribute to the TMP business model by helping providing content and a readership. Its elegant but if any of the component parts fail it does not work. So no shareholders but all the same a bunch of folks that the wise business man would endeavour to keep happy. |
Texas Jack | 05 Dec 2014 5:30 p.m. PST |
I would certainly agree that Bill would be wise to keep us all fat and happy, but I think demanding to know if any money changed hands is out of line, and actually quite vulgar. |
sjwalker38 | 05 Dec 2014 5:35 p.m. PST |
And it's difficult for us to play fair if the 'rules' are unclear or keep changing. Yes, I'm still looking for a set of Napoleonic rules I really like after over 30 years of gaming, but any potential enthusiasm and interest in IE is being sapped by the 'unusual' way it's come to my attention and the evasive response from 'the management' to straightforward questions. In the last few years I've bought several new rule sets simply after seeing an announcement here, followed by some positive reviews. This episode is making me LESS likely to do the same with IE, which I am sure was not the author's intention when setting up the board (without the usual inconvenience of having to organise a poll) and possibly mine as well, if indeed these are the 'must have' rules I've been waiting for. 'Actually quite vulgar': maybe, but also possibly a legal requirement to declare if posts by others more familiar with US advertising law than I are to be believed. |
Texas Jack | 05 Dec 2014 5:49 p.m. PST |
Well I can agree that the launch of the board was a fiasco, and I donīt think the author is well-served by having it. But what turned me off more was that I asked two questions on one of his postings, one about an anomaly on his e-shop and one about his design philosophy, and the only one he answered was about the e-shop. Perhaps my question was stupid, I donīt know, but to answer only the question that brings in money is not a way to get mine. |
Rebelyell2006 | 05 Dec 2014 9:11 p.m. PST |
Look on the bright side of things. Most forums do not have comment sections for sponsored links and sponsored content. |
deephorse | 06 Dec 2014 8:43 a.m. PST |
I would Have never know about these rules but for this as I have the Napoleonic boards turned off. You have the Napoleonic Boards turned off, yet you are grateful that this board has let you know of the existence of these Napoleonic rules? Please do explain. |
20thmaine | 06 Dec 2014 9:13 a.m. PST |
I can't remember a board being set up without a prior poll I'd suggest that all the early board structure was set up that way – and if The Editor in Chief (may he live forever) see's a reason for a new board then I think that surely it can be done by Imperial Edict. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 09 Dec 2014 8:20 p.m. PST |
I can't remember a board being set up without a prior poll, especially not one where the publisher/author is likely to gain financially from the free publicity he receives for a virtually unknown game. I think I said about a year ago that I wasn't always going to rely on polls with regard to setting up new boards, that in some situations it was just obvious what to do. Quite a number of boards have been launched by Imperial Edict in the past year. Have you taken money from the writer of the rules in exchange for promotion and a specific board for the rules no one has heard of? No. Now, if there are some urgent board proposals that have slipped past me, why not drop a PM to Editor Julia and ask her to schedule the votes "early"? Make sure to give her the link to the topic requesting the poll. |
Pan Marek | 12 Dec 2014 2:48 p.m. PST |
What use is having votes if in the end it is all up to whatever you feel like? |
Editor in Chief Bill | 12 Dec 2014 6:10 p.m. PST |
What use is having votes if in the end it is all up to whatever you feel like? Voting is one way to find out what the TMP community wants. |