"Falklands: Battle of Malo House AAR" Topic
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Chalfant | 02 Dec 2014 2:17 p.m. PST |
Howdie. A write up of last night's skirmish… link Thanks. Chalfant |
seldonH | 02 Dec 2014 4:45 p.m. PST |
Chalfant, that is a fantastic battle report and the scenario looks great ! really well done and shows how great point blank works for these actions.. If you have the time you should post the victory condition chart you mentioned plus any special rules that you might have used ( any night rules given the action started just before dusk ), rules for the effect of the LAWs launched.. I have the book written about the 602 commandos were this action is described in detail from our guys side (the Argentine side ). Your version appears to be one of the best scenarios I've seen from this action… Francisco
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Pizzagrenadier | 02 Dec 2014 8:36 p.m. PST |
It was a really fun and challenging game (I played the Argentinians). Like Chal mentioned, in the discussion after the game, I really felt that despite the slim chance I had for a conventional victory, the fight our side gave the Brits felt like one. They gave a good account of themselves by putting effective fire downrange despite the overwhelming firepower put into the position. The FAP team really gave the Brits some fight and when the position seemed hopeless, they still fell back in depleted, but good order, fighting the whole way. Captain Verseci stood by his post in the window and delivered hell to the advancing Brits as well while the rest of the force moved out. All in all a great and tense game. I also really enjoyed building the house. 20mm is not a scale I am used to working in and it seemed so small! We plan to run it again some time. |
Chalfant | 03 Dec 2014 6:44 a.m. PST |
Francisco, I think you give me too much credit :) There are several versions of this scenario available elsewhere, I can't say mine is the best, only that is the one that meets the criteria I felt most important about the battle. I was trying to name models as best I could, and was limited to the miniatures I have, but a couple people asked me for the scenario so I tried to post it… link Specifically your question about light conditions, I figured that the amount of low light available, combined with the dusting of snow on the ground, amounted to a "wash"…. so gamed without special light rules. Otherwise, its gaming with a penalty to see from the low light conditions, and a bonus to see from the dark uniforms standing out against the snow. Hopefully the scenario makes sense, it was not written as a publication, only as a scenario for our club use. Which book do you have, that details the battle from the 602 side? Chalfant |
seldonH | 03 Dec 2014 7:48 a.m. PST |
You cannot say it because it is your own :) I gave you the credit because I've been looking around these many versions and was never really satisfied (I've read so so many ) Many fail to recognize who the M&AW Cadre are and in many just the depiction is accurate but they haven't figured out how to create a fun game out of a last stand scenario, this is particularly difficult ( kind of like trying to game the Alamo ). There was one that I found online from an old website that I also think is great but yours looks fantastic… Thanks for the info on the scenario, something I'll try to run in the future… Of course , this is just my opinion, but I stand by it :) :)
The book is well known in Argentina, it is called Comandos en Accion, by Ruiz Moreno. I could try to get a copy for you next time I go back to visit ( I live in Austin now ) but it is of course in Spanish. Plenty of similar small actions like Top Malo to play with Point Blank cheers Francisco |
Chalfant | 03 Dec 2014 8:04 a.m. PST |
Ah, thanks anyway…. my Spanish is not good enough for this kind of reading. I see that some copies are available via Amazon (none of them cheap) in case I change my mind. Chalfant |
seldonH | 03 Dec 2014 8:18 a.m. PST |
It looks like Amazon has it on Kindle for 10 bucks !!! Do you want some info on the names : Top Floor: Teniente Primero Brun Teniente Primero Gatti Teniente Espinoza Cabo Valdivieso Sargento Primero Pedrozo Ground Floor: Capitan Vercesi Teniente Primero Losito Teniente Martinez Sargentos Primeros Helguero, Castillo, Medina and Sbert The chapter explains the failed previous recon mission that ended up with the patrol stranded plus the reason while no sentries were deployed and also positive comments about the British treatment of the prisoners after the incident. Francisco |
Chalfant | 03 Dec 2014 8:27 a.m. PST |
I'll take the names for sure, and make adjustments to my scenario, thanks. Chalfant |
seldonH | 03 Dec 2014 8:55 a.m. PST |
The book notes Pedrozo as the Medic and Helguero was the member from 601 just like you have it on your scenario… |
Chalfant | 03 Dec 2014 9:04 a.m. PST |
Thanks for that…. I have some of the ranks mixed up, I will make sure to apply them properly once I get a chance to edit the scenario. I knew that the unit was "top heavy" with officers, now I see it was even more so than I thought. Chalfant |
seldonH | 03 Dec 2014 9:32 a.m. PST |
I think it is the normal rank inflation of special forces, the book has a full list of the 601 and 602 and everyone is corporal or higher. I think your "conceptual" definition of the ranks appears correct… Probably all ranks of teniente or less are normal rank & file of the special forces unit.. Teniente primero and Captain would be the unit leaders.. I'm not an expert on the subject, I'll ask next tim I go to Buenos Aires,I have some friends that participated in the conflict and will be able to provide those details ( out of curiosity of course )… |
ITALWARS | 03 Dec 2014 5:23 p.m. PST |
Interesting topic…i designed and played this action on tabletop many years ago with hotspur metal minis and converted plastics…the key factor was obviously the surprise factor and the disposable rocket launchers hitting the house…the first time i played it surprise factor had nt being sufficiently considered and sentry alert was' nt sufficiently limited..the unrealistic result was, at the end, the commandos exiting the house and taking position to easily defeat by aimed fire the rushing and easily detected Royal Marine Quadre…the second time..with alert and surprise elements fully simulated in the game, Argentine commandos had no chance… The memtioned book "Commandos en Accion" is quite interesting above all for the other minor special force type of actions related in the book..not only commandos companies but also the less know fights carried on by scout/combat units of the elite 25 Regimiento de Infanteria could arose some other wargame scenario ideas…lack of decent maps on this book it's a pity |
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