"Chinese Su-35 buy inches closer" Topic
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| Deadone | 26 Nov 2014 3:58 p.m. PST |
janes.com/article/46273/russia-ready-to-supply-standard-su-35s-to-china-says-official Russians are ready to sell Su-35 to Chinese but certain "Sinofication" is required. Whilst the numbers mentioned are low (24 airframes) the Russians are aware that this is essentially technology transfer. Also Russians are supplying 100 more RD93 engines to China – at least 50 of these are probably for second Pakistani JF-17s order whose manufacturing is now under way. Not sure where the other 50 will go, but Pakistan does have a current requirement for at least 150 JF-17s (50 already delivered). |
| Mako11 | 26 Nov 2014 6:23 p.m. PST |
If they're smart, they'll produce "special" engines for Chinese export, which aren't top of the line tech, since otherwise, they'd be silly to hand over that on a sale of just 24 jets, and a few more spare engines. |
| Quaker | 26 Nov 2014 7:38 p.m. PST |
The RD93 is old tech, and the Russians already sell them to Pakistan. |
| Lion in the Stars | 26 Nov 2014 8:29 p.m. PST |
The Chinese have a hard time with making good turbines. Their indigenously-developed engines are very slow to spool up, which is death for a modern fighter. This suggests that the Chinese turbine wheels are much heavier than their Russian or American counterparts. |
| Mako11 | 26 Nov 2014 9:35 p.m. PST |
Yea, I suspect turbine engine and blade metallurgy, and manufacturing is a very fine art, much like it was in WWII, and shortly thereafter, when the Russians were after the secrets to it from the UK, for their Mig-15. |
| Deadone | 26 Nov 2014 9:41 p.m. PST |
In any case, any sale of these jets is irrelevant in short-medium term (up to next 15 years). In long term they might help China crack more advanced engine tech. Russian AESA radars are also significantly behind Western developments and have problems with overheating. Other than a mere handful of Su-35 just entering service, Russian AESA is a new development. American ones have been in service with F-15C/F/A-18E/F/F-22A fleets as well as B-2 stealth bombers and have been fitted to export F-16s.
In essence Chinese are struggling to catch up to the Russians who are struggling to catch up to the USA.
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| Zargon | 27 Nov 2014 9:35 a.m. PST |
Who are struggling to catch up to the Empire :) |
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