| serge joe | 26 Nov 2014 10:32 a.m. PST |
guys
Would like to know the ground condition at asterlitz because the allied army cross over it and Napoleon got stuck in the mud Remember the torch parade? best to you all serge joe |
| serge joe | 26 Nov 2014 10:46 a.m. PST |
Was it muddy al over the place or just at napoleons position vs bragation? greetings sege joe |
| JimDuncanUK | 26 Nov 2014 12:21 p.m. PST |
Some information here: link The main points appear to be frozen ground, height advantages, and mist. |
| serge joe | 26 Nov 2014 12:39 p.m. PST |
I think the ground was frozen but after the whole allied army it got muddy do you not think so? Any problems with the cavalry
Or is it just me?
greeting serge joe |
| JimDuncanUK | 26 Nov 2014 2:26 p.m. PST |
It's not a battle I know anything about and have no books on the matter. I couldn't find much on the internet. Maybe someone with better information will come along. |
| Broglie | 26 Nov 2014 2:46 p.m. PST |
It was a damp December morning but I have never read of any problems caused by the mud. |
| Esquire | 26 Nov 2014 3:09 p.m. PST |
From "1805-Austerlitz" by Robert Goetz -- and specifically discussing the attack upon Sokolnitz, page 139 footnote:
"The condition of the ground varies according to different accounts, sometimes being described as frozen (which is consistent with the reports of the frozen surfaces of ponds). In other reports "clinging mud" is mentioned. It seems likely that the ground was frozen initially but was turned to mud by the passage of troops aided by rising temperatures as the sun rose."
My two cents, if you read accounts of the battle, units moved pretty well and any severe restrictions on movement in a wargame would, while perhaps interesting, be contrary to actual site conditions.
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| Marcus Maximus | 26 Nov 2014 3:31 p.m. PST |
I have several accounts of the Battle of Austerlitz and Esquire is correct (Goetz :) ) |
| Sobieski | 26 Nov 2014 4:18 p.m. PST |
I was there for the bicentennial reenactment. The ground was like iron with the cold this century at least. |
| serge joe | 27 Nov 2014 8:59 a.m. PST |
O.k. So no mud? if any how napoleon got stuck by walking, and any problems with cannon bals? greetings serge joe |
| MajorB | 27 Nov 2014 12:12 p.m. PST |
O.k. So no mud? if any how napoleon got stuck by walking As Esquire quoted:
" but was turned to mud by the passage of troops aided by rising temperatures as the sun rose." |
| serge joe | 28 Nov 2014 4:02 a.m. PST |
So most of the cavalry chares went ok? greetings serge joe |
 McLaddie  | 28 Nov 2014 12:41 p.m. PST |
The primary advance by the Allied third column was slowed by muddy trails, which at two points had to be 'fixed' by engineers to continue. [discussed in Goetz's and Bowden's books. |
| Sarge Joe | 18 Jul 2020 4:22 a.m. PST |
coignet said mild freezing barely no snow grts joe |
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