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Marcel180920 Nov 2014 2:15 p.m. PST

Dear TMP friends, during a history class on the Rheinbund (confderation of the Rhine), one of my students asked about the tiny miniature state of Liechtenstein. I knew they had signed the treaty of the Rhinebund (on of the siteen original signatories we found on Wikipedia) however I never came across any military contingent of Liechtenstein, did they participate in some way in the Rheinbund contingent? I never found anything on them (but never made an in depth study of it either), on the other hand I can't imagine Napoleon letting them completely off the hook, maybe a company sized unit in another regt. Any one has any info on this? May be good for a new (very small) range of Perry's.

Personal logo Morning Scout Supporting Member of TMP20 Nov 2014 2:42 p.m. PST

Something like 2 dozen men fight or observe the French during the Revolutionary Wars,
Prince Johann fights with the Austrians for a bit and in 1815 about 100 men are sent to fight against Napoleon as part of the Army of Baden.
Post 1815 the army consists of some 80 or so men.
No real contingents that I know of or can remember coming across took part in active operations during 1806-1814 period.
Sorry I have no places to refer you to for more solid info.

WCTFreak20 Nov 2014 2:45 p.m. PST

Wiki says it had a contigent of 40 men in the Rheinbund later they were replaced with money.

Only German literature found on Napoleon net:

MALIN, G. Die politische Geschichte des Fürstentums Lichtenstein in den Jahren 1800-1815. In: Jahrbuch des historischen Vereins für das Fürstentum Lichtenstein, Bd. 53, 1953, pp. 1-178

PRESS, V. Das Fürstentum Lichtenstein im Rheinbund und im Deutschen Bund (1806-1866). In: Lichtenstein: Politische Schriften, Bd. 10, 1984, pp. 45-106

QUADERER-VOGT, R. Liechtensteinische Militärgeschichte von 1814 bis 1849. in: Jahrbuch des Historischen Vereins für das Fürstentum Lichtenstein. Bd. 90, Vaduz: Selbstverlag des Historischen Vereins für das Fürstentum Liechtenstein, 1991, pp. 5-281

Personal logo Morning Scout Supporting Member of TMP20 Nov 2014 2:49 p.m. PST

That 40 man number may have been the designated contingent that they were to contribute,, but like WCTFreak said it probably was never raised and instead a payment was made to make up for it.

Marcel180920 Nov 2014 3:24 p.m. PST

Payment seems a good alternative for yet another subcompany contribution, thanks Morning scout and WCTFreak, so no Liechtenstein army in my collectio then except if I once get started on the Baden troops I might add a company of Liechtensteiners.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP20 Nov 2014 3:39 p.m. PST

Might be fun to design the uniform of their Guard though….?

wrgmr120 Nov 2014 5:25 p.m. PST

I agree Deadhead, bright yellow uniforms with green turnbacks and white Shako covers!

John the OFM20 Nov 2014 9:18 p.m. PST

That's one figure in Empire V.

Whatisitgood4atwork20 Nov 2014 10:50 p.m. PST

OTOH, if they did send an actual contribution, you could build a whole army in one-to-one scale. This one is Fritz, and here's Otto …

Marcus Maximus21 Nov 2014 1:09 a.m. PST

According to Gill The principality had a population (estimated by the French) at 5000 and thus had to provide 40 men to the Rheinbund. The smallest was the Principality of Hohengeroldseck pop. 4,500 troops 29.

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2014 3:17 a.m. PST

wrgmr1, your Lichtenstein Guard uniform does indeed sound awfully like their close neighbours', the Canaries of Neufchatel. Are you suggesting pre or post Bardin though? I am sure they did not wear the white shako covers after 1806, but cannot find the reference at present…………..wonder why?

dibble21 Nov 2014 12:09 p.m. PST

YouTube link

Paul :D

Personal logo deadhead Supporting Member of TMP21 Nov 2014 1:22 p.m. PST

Sorry Dibble, the frock coat is wrong for Lichtenstein before 1850's and the trumpeter at the start should be wearing reversed colours. Mind you, Knotel says…no forget it…………

wrgmr121 Nov 2014 4:18 p.m. PST

Deadhead, yes definitely pre Bardin.
Lovely long tails with white buttons.

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