| Captain Moroni | 12 Nov 2014 2:16 p.m. PST |
An interesting investigation into how a suit of 15th century armour would effect some one with curvature of the spine. link I found my self routing for the young reinactor. link |
| Great War Ace | 12 Nov 2014 3:56 p.m. PST |
"The service is not currently available in your area." Oh well. I hope you meant "rooting" for and not routing, he won't appreciate you routing as he dies! ;) I am sure that Dickon's armor was tailor-made for his body's imperfections, and that he was no more hampered in his physical mobility than any other man-at-arms in the late 15th century…. |
| saltflats1929 | 12 Nov 2014 7:15 p.m. PST |
You mean this show?
Richard III's Body Double: youtu.be/9BUn6iI1NhA "Secrets of the dead: Richard the III" |
| Zagloba | 12 Nov 2014 7:59 p.m. PST |
It made him so slow a car park got him. Rich |
| Big Martin Back | 13 Nov 2014 4:36 a.m. PST |
Whilst we're being picky, also "affect". |
| Captain Moroni | 13 Nov 2014 9:54 a.m. PST |
Oops sorry for the poor link, must be only available for the uk.
Basicly as long as he was mounted he could fight as good as any other, but once dismounted he was toast, because he would have fatigued quickly, maybe the reason why he was willing to give his kingdom for a horse! Im sure I would have routed, no point hanging around once the king has had it. |
| Great War Ace | 13 Nov 2014 9:59 a.m. PST |
Dickon threw himself at his enemy, charged around the flank of the battle and into Bolingbroke's guard. But the Stanley brothers had committed to Henry's cause the moment that they saw the wild boar standard moving out, and met the king's guard in the flank. Finité. Except for the shouting. Was the king unhorsed or did he dismount? I don't think his deformity was severe enough to limit his movement on foot. Later in life the scoliosis would have rendered him incapacitated to some degree, but not as a young man…. |
| MajorB | 13 Nov 2014 10:17 a.m. PST |
I don't think his deformity was severe enough to limit his movement on foot. Later in life the scoliosis would have rendered him incapacitated to some degree, but not as a young man…. Absolutely agree! |
| FreemanL | 13 Nov 2014 11:18 a.m. PST |
That Secrets of the Dead episode was very well laid out and worth watching. The fatigue made sense not due to the muscles but getting air to them. The whole episode was watched by Danielle and I both as we had gone to Bosworth and even parked in that lot when I was in the service and stationed in the UK (sorry Richard, had no idea) so it really meant something to us! Plus, of course, we both love the history of the period… The intriging aspects of the show was that the armor supported the spine and the medieval saddle actually made riding comfortable for him moreso than a modern saddle. So as mentioned above, as long as he was on horseback, he would have been indistinguishable from any other mounted knight. I highly recommend checking out the episode when it comes on again.
Larry |
 Herkybird  | 13 Nov 2014 2:54 p.m. PST |
Scoliosis tends to affect people in their early teens and is usually related to puberty, if memory serves.
By the end of the teens the condition usually does not progress much.
The problems are mostly cosmetic, with one shoulder being higher than the other, or when spinal rotation occurs, the ribs can protrude, especially to the back.
In severe Scoliosis, there can be compression and restrictions to important organs like the lungs and heart, which could seriously impact on a Medieval Knight. There would be serious back pain as well, most likely, which would be stressful and tiring.
Modern surgical/bracing and exercise treatments aim to prevent disease progression and reduce/eliminate discomfort.
Poor Richard would not have had any effective help.
He would have accomodated his disease though and adjusted his activity / actions to help him cope. Being a fit man would help too. Hope this helps? |
| Yesthatphil | 13 Nov 2014 4:00 p.m. PST |
Bolingbroke? Anyway … I think only sir William Stanley actually engaged and I'm not sure he commits the moment that they saw the wild boar standard moving out but he and his men are certainly decisive enough to engulf Richard's attack … Phil |
| Great War Ace | 13 Nov 2014 8:00 p.m. PST |
"Bolingbroke?' Oops. "…broke", Pem or Boling, plus a genuine brain fart. :) I believe I have made this same mistake recently. Thanks for slapping my synapses for me…. |
| goragrad | 14 Nov 2014 1:05 a.m. PST |
Actually knew a miner in his early 30s whose scoliosis was progressing to the point that he required surgery. Prior to that he ran equipment including jackleg drills on a daily basis at work. Once he got the internal braces inserted he had to find another line of work. |
shows how using inks makes it easier to paint a 15mm scale army.