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Tango0111 Nov 2014 11:04 p.m. PST

"Victory or Death" is the last picture of Don Troiani on the US war of independence. This picture shows the approaches of the Battle of Trenton.

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Hope you enjoy!

Amicalement
Armand

Supercilius Maximus12 Nov 2014 5:02 a.m. PST

As always, a good rendition from the master, but does anyone else find it a little odd that (a) so many officers have their swords drawn whilst on the march (and in such cold weather), and (b) that the rammers/sponges are being carried by the gunners rather than strapped to the guns like all the other kit?

Tango0112 Nov 2014 11:49 a.m. PST

Agree.
Still a great job.

Amicalement
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historygamer12 Nov 2014 12:49 p.m. PST

Ready for action. :-)

Besides, it looks more dramatic. It's all about the art. :-

Ironwolf12 Nov 2014 4:32 p.m. PST

not if they are deploying for battle.

Old Contemptibles12 Nov 2014 7:07 p.m. PST

I think I see a Gostelowe flag in the background. I wonder which flag and which regiment is carrying it?

Personal logo DWilliams Supporting Member of TMP15 Nov 2014 8:59 a.m. PST

I am a huge Don Troiani fan and have had a chance to meet him. He's a very serious and dedicated historian.

I'm rather surprised at how well equipped and uniformly outfitted the artillery are. My impression has been that Washington's army was pretty ragged by this point in the campaign. They had seen hard service in the field for months prior to this point.

As for the flag, one of the facebook comments reads as follows …"Looks like one of the surviving grand division colors from the 8th Virginia regiment, and other regiments had similar ones too."

GiloUK19 Nov 2014 11:21 a.m. PST

"but does anyone else find it a little odd that (a) so many officers have their swords drawn whilst on the march (and in such cold weather), and (b) that the rammers/sponges are being carried by the gunners rather than strapped to the guns like all the other kit?"

SM, as historygamer says above, the artist's explanation is that this is the moment when the attack starts (apparently in the distance are infantry charging). This is explained in the comments on the Facebook page.

Supercilius Maximus19 Nov 2014 3:04 p.m. PST

Ah, right – fair enough and that explains both things.

(Don't do "Facebook", I'm afraid. Or Twitter.)

GiloUK20 Nov 2014 4:35 a.m. PST

I only do Facebook at the insistence of my wife – it's the only way I can see the photos she takes of the boys!

As regards Twitter, I'm rather with Cameron on that….

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