Editor in Chief Bill | 07 Nov 2014 6:51 p.m. PST |
The TMP 4.0 technology will give us the option to have chatrooms. This wouldn't be entirely new – some of you may remember that we had a chatroom many years ago. It wasn't terribly popular. Would chatrooms have any appeal to you? Two possible uses I can think of: * using a chatroom as a means to host a miniatures game (not sure how well that would work!) * using a chatroom as a "painting club" where people can share what's on their workbench in real time * scheduled events, such as an open house with a designer of a new ruleset My viewpoint at the moment is that chatrooms are pretty marginal for TMP, but maybe you can change my mind? |
John the OFM | 07 Nov 2014 6:56 p.m. PST |
What would you call Current Affairs, Wargamers and Religion, the Blue Fez, and dare I say it, Ultramodern? Would they have a heavy handed moderation favoring one side, and letting slide the other? |
Editor in Chief Bill | 07 Nov 2014 7:20 p.m. PST |
Would they have a heavy handed moderation favoring one side, and letting slide the other? John, I believe our moderation has been fair, and according to the rules established for our forums. Forums are not chatrooms. To be honest, I don't have much recent experience with chatrooms. I participated in some chatroom events back when I was with Electronic Arts, eons ago. |
John the OFM | 07 Nov 2014 7:34 p.m. PST |
Bill, I am a card carrying right wing nut job. I am very well aware of how much my side gets away with. |
jpattern2 | 07 Nov 2014 7:56 p.m. PST |
From John's fingers to Bill's eyes . . . |
The Tin Dictator | 07 Nov 2014 10:23 p.m. PST |
I will not use a chatroom on TMP. |
David Manley | 07 Nov 2014 10:48 p.m. PST |
I would not use a chat room |
grommet37 | 07 Nov 2014 11:03 p.m. PST |
I haven't used one in quite a while. I tend to avoid them these days. If it were associated with a game engine, perhaps… |
dragon6 | 07 Nov 2014 11:05 p.m. PST |
I would not use a chat room |
Doctor X | 08 Nov 2014 12:03 a.m. PST |
I would avoid a chat room |
ZULUPAUL | 08 Nov 2014 3:44 a.m. PST |
No chat room for me either |
Oh Bugger | 08 Nov 2014 3:50 a.m. PST |
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Tango India Mike | 08 Nov 2014 4:03 a.m. PST |
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B6GOBOS | 08 Nov 2014 4:23 a.m. PST |
This is such a incredibly bad idea I cannot believe it was evan brought up. No good can come from it. The current affairs/blue fez/ultramodern boardsprove that. The only purpose I see is to purge more members who think incorrectly. |
deephorse | 08 Nov 2014 4:55 a.m. PST |
Indeed, this is right up there with letting you 'host' our blogs. Having seen and directly experienced your moderation over the last twelve months I think that the less control you have over us the better. |
Joes Shop | 08 Nov 2014 5:07 a.m. PST |
I would have no interest in it. |
sjwalker38 | 08 Nov 2014 5:41 a.m. PST |
No interest in a chat room or TMP-moderated blog |
Murphy | 08 Nov 2014 5:45 a.m. PST |
No…waaay too many trolling/security issues…. |
Yesthatphil | 08 Nov 2014 6:03 a.m. PST |
what nearly everyone is saying … I can't see a chat room being for me … Phil |
Rrobbyrobot | 08 Nov 2014 6:23 a.m. PST |
I'll say I don't know much about what a chat room is. I'm a miniature collector and a war gamer. The computer is a tool I use, but am not all that familiar with. That having been said, I don't see a need for such. And almost all the other folks responding are against the idea. |
etotheipi | 08 Nov 2014 6:35 a.m. PST |
Seeing how people behave when they have the leisure of time to prepare a response, I'm not sure what benefits immediacy would bring. Besides being snarky, I think chatrooms would drain some of the content (people participate in them, taking some of the time they could be contributing otheriwise – opportunity cost) and certain people (who are not good a quick responses) and topics (which are not well served with quick responses) would suffer with no appreciable gain. Now we do loose that content that is best fitted to a chatroom dynamic. But not completely. Given modern connection speeds and persistent connectivity, current board can adequately function as (near) real time chat. And occasionally, they do so on TMP. |
RavenscraftCybernetics | 08 Nov 2014 7:26 a.m. PST |
chat rooms tend to devolve into cybersex dens. ASL doesnt mean the same thind in a chat room as it does on the boards. ymmv, RC |
nazrat | 08 Nov 2014 7:29 a.m. PST |
No on the chat rooms for me, too. The forums do the job well enough. |
Lee Brilleaux | 08 Nov 2014 7:51 a.m. PST |
So, the editor is inclined against it and everyone thinks it's a terrible idea? When can we expect the chatrooms? |
John the OFM | 08 Nov 2014 8:13 a.m. PST |
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combatpainter | 08 Nov 2014 9:39 a.m. PST |
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deephorse | 08 Nov 2014 10:39 a.m. PST |
chat rooms tend to devolve into cybersex dens. Oh, I've changed my mind then! |
TamsinP | 08 Nov 2014 10:49 a.m. PST |
chat rooms tend to devolve into cybersex dens That would get the members of a certain other place foaming. I don't see any need for them and wouldn't use them if they were available. |
Oh Bugger | 08 Nov 2014 11:03 a.m. PST |
"When can we expect the chatrooms?" A damn sight sooner than this. TMP link Though on current response the chat rooms may be a place of quiet repose reverberating to the sound of one hand clapping. |
Bashytubits | 08 Nov 2014 11:08 a.m. PST |
Too much temptation for troublemakers, so I vote no. |
The Gray Ghost | 08 Nov 2014 11:36 a.m. PST |
How about a voluntary Dawg House button, that way we can check ourselves in |
Martin Rapier | 08 Nov 2014 12:14 p.m. PST |
Chat has a certain role at work, but even then is best avoided. For a hobby? As mentioned above, unless we are doing TMP cybersex, no thanks. If people really want to chat, use one of the existing free services. No point reinventing the wheel. |
JimDuncanUK | 08 Nov 2014 12:48 p.m. PST |
Just what is a chat room exactly and what will it do for me that TMP doesn't do already? |
Unrepentant Werewolf 2 | 08 Nov 2014 1:34 p.m. PST |
"No interest in a chat room or TMP-moderated blog" I don't think you realise what you're suggesting here Bill |
14Bore | 08 Nov 2014 1:36 p.m. PST |
For a game maybe otherwise not much interest. |
Jakse375 | 08 Nov 2014 1:46 p.m. PST |
no need for a chat room, If i want to talk to anybody on here i'd set up a skype. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 08 Nov 2014 4:00 p.m. PST |
I don't think you realise what you're suggesting here Bill That's why I brought it up for discussion. As I said, I can't see the need for a chatroom, but I thought maybe someone with more insight would have a compelling reason. The cases I brought up: * using a chatroom as a means to host a miniatures game: Has anyone ever tried this? Opening a chat session, posting pictures of the game table, recruiting players, having a game "over the internet"? * using a chatroom as a "painting club" where people can share what's on their workbench in real time. People could upload pictures of what they are working on, ask questions, take feedback, share pictures of their workbench, topics limited to painting of minis… might be good for people who don't have a local club to socialize? * scheduled events, such as an open house with a designer of a new ruleset: So that we could set up an event on a Saturday night, for instance, with the designer of the latest ACW ruleset, and let him take questions from the audience. This is the type of event I was involved with before, when I was in the software field. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 08 Nov 2014 4:02 p.m. PST |
Just what is a chat room exactly and what will it do for me that TMP doesn't do already? A chat room allows a group of people to exchange messages instantly, in real time. |
tkdguy | 08 Nov 2014 4:15 p.m. PST |
True 20 has been used to host online rpgs via chat. Not sure how well it does wargames, but it's worth a try. Will off-topic conversations (even with the no politics or religion rule in place) be allowed? I occasionally chat on the HERO Games chatroom, but I rarely talk about the HERO system. |
StarfuryXL5 | 08 Nov 2014 7:52 p.m. PST |
waaay too many trolling/security issues…. If I understand what a chat room is correctly, you can only get in by invitation. So there shouldn't be trolling issues. |
Editor in Chief Bill | 08 Nov 2014 9:20 p.m. PST |
Will off-topic conversations (even with the no politics or religion rule in place) be allowed? I occasionally chat on the HERO Games chatroom, but I rarely talk about the HERO system. I don't know, we're discussing now about the possibilities. Someone tells me I am using the wrong term – that they're not called "chatrooms" any more. |
Winston Smith | 09 Nov 2014 8:02 a.m. PST |
Mister Watson. Come here. I want you. |
etotheipi | 09 Nov 2014 9:16 a.m. PST |
If I understand what a chat room is correctly, you can only get in by invitation. So there shouldn't be trolling issues.
Chatrooms can be by invitation or open. that they're not called "chatrooms" any more. Chatrooms are still called that. More recently, it is uncommon for chatrooms to be instantiated on their own. They are usually integrated into another content sharing capability like music broadcasting or a webinar, where they are usually called chat windows. |
Silent Pool | 09 Nov 2014 10:29 a.m. PST |
Real men don't do Chat Rooms. Well, that's what is graffitied here on the walls in the Ladies Cloakroom in Harrods …that's another long story …just saying. |