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Tango0104 Nov 2014 9:14 p.m. PST

"…The article is written by former Soviet naval officer Maksim Tokarev, and contains a depth of detail about Soviet military operations that I have never seen before. So there's plenty of red meat for the military wonks, including the fact that the Soviets planned to send a fleet of 100 bombers armed with anti-ship missiles against a US aircraft-carrier battle group, fully expecting to lose half of them to enemy action.

But there's also wit and drama, which you rarely find in these types of papers. Here's an account of an air-crew briefing for a mock raid by Soviet Backfire bombers (pictured) on a US carrier fleet somewhere in the Pacific:…"
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Mako1104 Nov 2014 9:52 p.m. PST

A very short, but interesting article.

Seems like the Russians were trying to think outside the box in some cases.

Mikasa05 Nov 2014 12:11 a.m. PST

Thanks for posting this Tango, really intertesting stuff

GarrisonMiniatures05 Nov 2014 10:26 a.m. PST

Agreed, this is a good one.

Tango0105 Nov 2014 10:42 a.m. PST

Happy you enjoyed it my friends!. (smile)

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Deadone06 Nov 2014 8:38 p.m. PST

Amazing article.

Didn't know the Japanese used primitive ECM

I suspect most sorties of any sort in WW3 were one way trips.


It's also interesting that a modern carrier group is not as capable of defending itself from mass cruise missiles due to shorter range of F/A-18, smaller weapons load and shorter missile range than F-14. This is despite it being able to detect at greater ranges thanks to improvements in radars.

And any operations against China carry very much a risk of massed cruise missile salvos.

Tango0106 Nov 2014 11:21 p.m. PST

Glad you enjoyed it too my friend! (smile)

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Mithmee17 Nov 2014 7:08 a.m. PST

I would expect them to lose 75%-100% of them.

Deadone19 Nov 2014 5:39 p.m. PST

I would expect them to lose 75%-100% of them

That's a tad overconfident. No such thing as certainty in war.

Lion in the Stars20 Nov 2014 10:54 p.m. PST

Thomas, did you read the article? The Russians were expecting to lose 75+% of the attacking bombers in exchange for taking out a carrier group when the Tomcats were out to play. They'd probably only lose 50% today, since the AMRAAM just can't compare to the Phoenix in terms of warhead (40-50lbs versus 135lbs). AIM-120D models have roughly the same range as a Phoenix, but I think it would take 2-3 AMRAAM-Ds to knock out a Bear or Backfire.

Mako1123 Nov 2014 11:13 p.m. PST

Yep, loss of the Tomcats and Phoenix missiles are severe blows to carrier battlegroup capabilities.

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