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War Scorpio04 Nov 2014 4:41 p.m. PST

Working on a custom 10'X6' WWII 20mm Kursk battle tabletop that will include a river and bridge. Will run game at future HMGS cons and want this to live up to our reputation for exceptional eye appeal as the starting point. Have always put together bought river pieces, but this time I want a custom build. So, having to do this for the first time, what product do you recommend I use for the running river water effect?

Want some slight wave appearance so epoxy resin doesn't seem to cut it. Have heard of Liquitex Gloss, Woodland Scenics Realistic Water.

Using 1/4" MDF, pink foam, Sculptamold, sealing water area with plaster, applying paint color, sand, and stones, then river product. Does this sound right? Would hate to waist time and money as this project is already ambitious.

MH Dee04 Nov 2014 4:52 p.m. PST

Have you checked Youtube? There seems to be a few modelling technique tutorials for water effects on it. I have a product by Javis Manufacturers (a UK based company), but I've only used it for puddles etc so far.

45thdiv04 Nov 2014 5:00 p.m. PST

Woodland scenics has great how to videos on YouTube. Really useful.

Matthew

TNE230004 Nov 2014 5:57 p.m. PST

the terrain tutor comparison

YouTube link

vtsaogames04 Nov 2014 7:48 p.m. PST

Good stuff!

LordNth04 Nov 2014 9:51 p.m. PST

Couldn't you 'pull' some waves during the end of the curing process using epoxy resin?

Mad Guru05 Nov 2014 12:14 a.m. PST

Two good choices are (1) EnviroTex Lite clear resin and (2) Liquitex Gloss Medium.

(1) The resin is poured in 1/8" deep layers. Best effect is to pour the first layer clear then add any color tint -- be it blue, green, brown, or a combo, using acrylic artist's inks -- to additional pours.

(2) The gloss medium works well if you have put a lot of effort into texturing and painting your riverbed itself, then you simply brush on the gloss medium to add a "wet" sheen and some choppy waves if you want them, kind of like varnish but more substantial.

Woodland Scenics Realistic Water works well enough but at least in my own experience is better suited to smaller projects like thinly poured table-top waterway sections as opposed to major rivers or coastal areas carved out of large terrain boards.

You can add choppy wave texture to the top of already dry resin or medium using more medium or using the other Woodland Scenics product "Water Effects" which can also be used to create waterfalls or ice. You can dry-brush a highlight coat of white paint onto the wave texture after it dries.

I'm also a fan of the Terrain Tutor and recommend checking out his many and varied Youtube tutorials.

Another great resource -- for building terrain boards in particular -- is Clarence Harrison's Quindia Studios site, which has a great tutorial for building a river using EnviroTex Lite. You can visit it here:

link

@LordNth: yes, you can indeed "pull" waves, though it's more like "drag" waves by drawing a plastic utensil through the semi-dry resin. If you go at the resin too soon it will have no effect, and if you go too late it will create chunky gaps more suitable to an earthquaking surface, so timing is everything! With EnviroTex you are supposed to wait 6-8 hours after pouring before "dragging" your waves.

HistoryPhD05 Nov 2014 3:29 p.m. PST

I like the Woodlands Scenics product. It works very well

Fizzypickles05 Nov 2014 8:48 p.m. PST

I would have though a Gloss Gel rather than a medium would have been more appropriate for what you are trying to achieve. EnviroTex does seem to be a very popular product as it is very easy to use and the results are reliable.

TheTerrainTutor06 Nov 2014 7:09 a.m. PST

I'd go with Envirotex Lite witha tint mate :-)

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