Tango India Mike | 03 Nov 2014 8:07 a.m. PST |
Is the discussion of gaming 1984 right here (in Cold War) or more properly in Modern/Ultramodern – it was intended as near-future fiction when it was written. Maybe Winston Smith could give his opinion? |
Coyotepunc and Hatshepsuut | 03 Nov 2014 8:35 a.m. PST |
I think "1984" properly belongs on the Science Fiction boards, but that's just me. And yes, the opinion of Winston Smith is probably the most relevant. |
GarrisonMiniatures | 03 Nov 2014 8:57 a.m. PST |
Published 1949, so set 35 years in the 'future'. SciFi to me. |
Tango India Mike | 03 Nov 2014 9:20 a.m. PST |
Where's Winston when we really need him… |
Rick Dangerous | 03 Nov 2014 9:29 a.m. PST |
Maybe he's with his Big Brother? |
Paul B | 03 Nov 2014 9:57 a.m. PST |
Razor blades are doubleplus good these days. |
Tango India Mike | 03 Nov 2014 10:11 a.m. PST |
Though,on giving it some thought it really should be in Weird War – given as it basically an extension of an alternative WW2 history… maybe – after all, supposedly Orwell chose the name by reversing the last two digits of 1948! - but I expect the Weird War 2 players may not agree. |
darthfozzywig | 03 Nov 2014 12:24 p.m. PST |
I'd say it's an alternate Cold War for wargaming purposes, satire for most others. |
Jakar Nilson | 03 Nov 2014 12:33 p.m. PST |
The two biggest aspects of war against Eastasia and/or Eurasia were the sea fortresses and missiles. If this is incorrect, please check at minitru. |
Winston Smith | 03 Nov 2014 1:33 p.m. PST |
I have learned to love Big Brother. |
MHoxie | 03 Nov 2014 3:08 p.m. PST |
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Mute Bystander | 03 Nov 2014 3:27 p.m. PST |
Can you place SF in a 30 years ago in the past period? I think so ("modern" equivalent to VSF?) but Alternate reality Modern might work too. WW2 not so much… |
Tacitus | 03 Nov 2014 4:11 p.m. PST |
Do we need a "Dystopian Fiction" board? |
Tango India Mike | 03 Nov 2014 4:43 p.m. PST |
Not more boards. Please. @jakar Didn't they have huge "floating" fortresses.? I couldn't remember if they were air or sea. Surely there must have been troops too? I know it's not really mentioned in detail. |
Jakar Nilson | 03 Nov 2014 4:56 p.m. PST |
Yes, they were called floating fortresses. The implication was that they were seaborne. And there were ground operations with helicopter support in the territories not covered by the three powers, mainly Africa. I think the most we saw of it was during the Hour of Hate. And that wasn't much. |
Tango India Mike | 03 Nov 2014 5:02 p.m. PST |
Thanks. Minitrue (via wiki) states floating fortress anchored between Faroes and Iceland. So seaborne but thanks for clarification. |
Frederick | 03 Nov 2014 7:32 p.m. PST |
War is Peace Freedom is Slavery Ignorance is Strength |
Martin Rapier | 04 Nov 2014 12:19 a.m. PST |
1984 was a thinly disguised commentary about 1948, amongst other things. So it sits firmly in the Cold War, if not WW2. |
BaldLea | 04 Nov 2014 5:19 a.m. PST |
I don't think you can wargame 1984 since I don't believe Oceania was actually at war. It was just propaganda. |
Cyrus the Great | 04 Nov 2014 7:04 a.m. PST |
I have redacted several of the posts here to comply with the latest edition of the Newspeak dictionary. |