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ScottS20 Oct 2014 10:10 a.m. PST

It is my understanding that helicopters were assigned to "teams" with different color codes.

White: Observation
Red: Attack
Blue: Troop transport

Was this ever reflected in the markings on the helicopters themselves? I.e., "Attack helicopters have a red stripe?"

Ferd4523120 Oct 2014 10:35 a.m. PST

I only had occasional need to use helicopters, white birds, for hand held photo missions. Never saw any special markings. On the radio we were white bird and the Cobra flying shot gun was red bird. You may have heard of pink teams. White flys low to attract attention and then red flys in and hoses the people white birds attract. But never any colors per se. That was the aviation unit with the 11th ACR. btw. H

ScottS20 Oct 2014 11:23 a.m. PST

That helps, thanks!

Darkest Star Games Sponsoring Member of TMP20 Oct 2014 11:50 a.m. PST

Many units used tactical markings to denote which company or platoon (or troop) a helo was from, such as triangles, squares, diamonds, circles, which were generally white, though sometimes colored. There were usually applied to each side of the tailboom, sometimes the cockpit doors. There was not standardization, and some units painted the tops of their "winglets" bright orange or white, or had white stripes painted behind the greenhouse to denote leaders, etc. The Red/White/Blue nomenclature was a way to sort out what capability/loadout a type of helo/section carried. You've probably heard of a "Blues" platoon, which was the heloborne portion of a Cavalry Troop. As you said, Blue= lift, but blue and red are dang hard to see on dirty birds…

Lion in the Stars20 Oct 2014 1:25 p.m. PST

The only 'special' markings I'm aware of are brightly-colored horizontal stabilizers, which were NOT uniform. The various colors were to help higher aircraft see where the helos were against the dark green jungle.

I'm planning on marking all my observation birds (3x Loaches and 1x Huey slick) with dayglo orange or something similar. Might only do white. Not sure I'd use red, orange, and yellow as the red would probably fade to an orange and the orange to a rather yellow. Can't use blue, as that's too dark a color to serve the primary purpose of showing where the helos are.

Personal logo Legion 4 Supporting Member of TMP21 Oct 2014 9:39 a.m. PST

I remember the UH1 unit that were flying out of the US ARMY airfield at Ft. Benning, GA., were still calling themselves "The Soc Trang Tigers". After their ops in Vietnam. When I was there as a Cadet for training in '75 or '76. IIRC, they had a Tiger painted on the pilots' doors …

scouts19508a24 Oct 2014 6:53 p.m. PST

Here is a link that should help. Its called vietnam huey illustration home page

vietnam-hueys.tripod.com

Jim

Pyrate Captain08 Nov 2014 12:45 p.m. PST

I have seen loaches with a white topped engine compartment, but mostly it was for radio tactical call-sign and identification.

Curiously, if you think of artillery and infantry branch colors, it makes sense.

If you listen to Covered Wagon's hit, "NAPALM STICKS TO KIDS". there is a line of lyrics about "blues out on a road recon".

Pyrate Captain09 Nov 2014 12:04 p.m. PST

I think I might have stumbled on Red gunship markings:

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Lion in the Stars09 Nov 2014 10:24 p.m. PST

Nice! I think I'm going to 'borrow' that paint scheme, Pyrate.

Since I'm going to get a couple of the OGUK UH1Bs and arm them with the twin M60s and door gunners, that will suit perfectly. evil grin

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