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olicana13 Oct 2014 2:36 a.m. PST

I have a piece of 'trench art'.It takes the form of a horse shoe crafted from the detonator timing ring of an artillery shell. The graduations have 'arabic' symbols (at a guess). Measuring it, I think the shell was probably in the 47mm / 3 pounder range.

It might be Egyptian. I came by the piece through my wife's grandmother. During WW2 she was an oil journalist and her husband was a professor of English in Cairo.

Any ideas, my usual searches draw a blank.

GarrisonMiniatures13 Oct 2014 3:21 a.m. PST

Think Italian? Cannone da 47/32 M35 for example?

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olicana13 Oct 2014 4:33 a.m. PST

That's what I thought, at first, but after some thought that doesn't make sense to me:

1. It's the writing on the ring. There are no European numbers or letters so for it to be Italian I guess it was a shell produced locally under licence, or produced in Italy with Arabic writing – but I doubt that. Imported Egyptian stuff would have been produced in the UK, surely.

2. Solid shot AT rounds don't have timed fuses. I don't know what HE rounds this Italian piece fired.

3. There is always a chance, of course, that it could pre-date WW2 and be Turkish.

I'm at a loss.

olicana13 Oct 2014 5:01 a.m. PST

Sorry about the delete, just a messed up version of this. Here are some pics

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Personal logo ColCampbell Supporting Member of TMP13 Oct 2014 6:44 a.m. PST

They are Arabic numbers.

link (Google to our rescue.)

But I have no idea what type of weapon might have fired it.

Jim

Raynman Supporting Member of TMP13 Oct 2014 8:14 a.m. PST

Something from the Soviets? There were a lot of Soviet weapons in that area during the late 50's and 60's.

olicana13 Oct 2014 8:42 a.m. PST

I think (fairly sure) it is earlier than that. My wife's grandmother returned to the UK (with this) just a few years after WW2.

olicana13 Oct 2014 10:32 a.m. PST

Just got sent this by Mikko. It would seem that the calibre might be nearer 75mm from this

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So, Turkish WW1 also seems a possibility given the local.

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